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    This is why I don’t fuck guys who “don’t pay attention to politics”.

    That means one thing, and it isn’t that they are blissfully unaware of the day to day happenings in their town, county, state, region, country, or planet of residence.

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      It depends on why they don’t pay attention to politics. Personally, I kind of have to go ostrich-mode and bury my head in the sand when school gets stressful because I just don’t have the mental bandwidth to deal with both. I’m not going to judge someone too harshly for protecting their mental health from the absolute shitshow that is the American political landscape.

      PS: This is not to say that any degree of modern conservatism is okay. Bigots can go fuck themselves and I’d be out punching Nazis and being a medic at protests if it didn’t jeopardize my future so significantly. (Felony convictions make it really hard to get a medical license and I have to pay off my student loans somehow. Besides, I’ll be in a much better position to make a meaningful difference as a physician than as a heavily indebted student or EMT.)

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        this. you can pay little attention to politics without being a “centrist” who isn’t actually a centrist. news can be depressing as fuck, i’m hella glad i strongly limited my consumption of them, but that doesn’t mean i’m gonna start both-sidesing shit. (with the exception of tankies vs nazis, because those two are in fact the same authoritarian, anti-west, bigoted crap under different flags that love to larp against each other)

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      This is my go-to response whenever anyone wants to start talking politics with me. Mainly because whenever someone wants to talk politics it’s usually not because they’re liberal and I really hate talking with people who just want to prove that their opinion is the right one.

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        I’ll admit I’ve used it for similar reasons. What I really should be saying is “I’m sorry, but I don’t want to talk about this right now.” Maybe I’ll even be brave and say “I don’t want to talk about this with you.” but it’s rare for me to find a person I don’t want to hear at all from. That usually comes up because they’ve already made their arguments, and I’ve already accepted or rebuttal the points to my own satisfaction. At that point they’ll talk themselves into circles looking for justification for parts of their stance, but unable to articulate it themselves. I’ll listen to anyone’s views at least once, given I’m in the right mindset, but I still wouldn’t date someone I don’t morally agree with. Life partners should have higher standards than conversation partners, and aligning values is a bare minimum for relationships.

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      Eh, sometimes it means another thing, namely that they know their conservatism is off-putting to most women and they’re lying to get you into bed.

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          I was responding to the previous comment, not OP. OP was saying conservatives get upset when people won’t sleep with them because they’re conservative. From the text of the comment I responded to, it looks like the person is saying “moderates” just don’t care about anyone but themselves. I’m adding that often the people the actual OP is talking about pretend to be the moderates the previous commenter is discussing.

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            The person you responded to initially is talking about conservatives hiding that about themselves lol. That’s why they said it the way they did.

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      I bartend. I was working on Easter, and one of our semi regulars came in with a guy that she was obviously on a drink date with. They’d been at at least one other bar before they came in; they’d had a couple drinks, but weren’t past maybe tipsy.

      At one point, she mentioned that the reason the last place they’d been to was slow was likely that it happened to be Easter. At the mention of the word the guy interrupted with,

      “I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT ANY POLITICS OR RELIGION!!”

      To me this was a sign that this dude cared very much about religion and politics, but just like how scientologists don’t drop the Xenu shit on you right away, he wanted to wait until any prospective partner was in too deep before revealing how abhorrent his views are.

      That regular isn’t my favorite person, but I was proud of her for pretty much ending that date after that.

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        That’s literally a bar rule. Lol. Alcohol makes people talk like they are on the internet in real life. Doesn’t make sense to discuss nuance when you’ve been drinking especially with the touchy subjects.

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        In my experience, that’s the case 100% of the time. I’ve never once in my 30+ years heard a liberal say the same thing. It’s always Nazis Republicans trying to deflect and sweep their shitty views under the rug because they think it’s some kind of trump card to get around their awful views and have civilized society allow them back in so they can spread their hate.

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    Good lord the replies to this are sad. Believe it or not it’s a perfectly reasonable expectation to only want to date someone whose core beliefs align with yours (and, y’know, actually respects your rights as an independent human being.)

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      “in looking for a woman who will respect my core beliefs as an independent human being, which include not treating her like an independent human being”

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      As someone with a right-wing father and a left-wing mother: for fuck’s sake date people with your same beliefs. Deep disagreement on something like that is NOT something you can build a trustful relationship upon.

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      It’s fine to have dating preferences. The issue is when people who are just calling anyone who is conservative leaning terrible. If you don’t agree with someone’s political ideology, you should just respectfully disagree, not call them a terrible person.

      Also, calling people evil for their options is a terribly way to convince them to change, it just makes them get really defensive. If you want to convince someone to change opinion, you need to have a respectful, insightful discussion.

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        The meme here didn’t even call anyone evil. That said, if you guys don’t want to be called evil, stop supporting evil shit.

        Conservative policies not only rob women of the rights to their own bodies, it gets them killed too. Either conservatives openly support this or they’re somehow too naive to see what the politicians they vote for are doing, and both are good reasons for women to stay the hell away from them.

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          Just being conservative leaning doesn’t mean you are far right, and agree with everything the conservative party does.

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              I’m genuinely curious what reason someone has to support them. Like genuinely. I look at Republicans and am like how the fuck can anyone that isn’t rich and in power be on that side? And then I remember the very potent tactics of fearmongering

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    The last conservative I matched with was immediately bragging about being unvaccinated, was in his late 30’s, openly religious, desperate for kids.

    If you’re openly conservative, you’re baring your soul about women’s rights, and if women don’t want to sleep with you as a result, you made your damn bed.

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      Some women dig that. Not every woman believes the same things you do. There’s even a thing called the quiver full movement where people like the duggars deliberately have as many children as possible to outnumber people like you.

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        Most women (and men) believe the things their parents teach them.

        The thing with conservatives is they want to 1) prevent any other information flowing to these women, religious indoctrination only 2) get these women pregnant young so that they don’t have a chance to gain independence

        So yeah in those cases you have grown women who believe these things. The Duggars are an example of the ‘quiver full’ movement in action. Letting their son abuse their daughters young so that they get used to it and defend it as normal.

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          You seem to have confused Conservative politics with Fundamentalist Christianity. They are separate ideals but hard to find separately currently. Somebody can be a fiscal conservative and not buy into the social fundamental conservative position.

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            Check again, conservatives are no longer fiscally conservative and have not been for several decades. That facade has entirely fallen away to reveal the real:

            • fundamentalist christians
            • racists
            • filthy rich people who want tax cuts for the rich (do not confuse this with being fiscally conservative)
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          That has nothing to do with conservatism. Just because some people who are conservative said that, doesn’t mean that that’s a part of it. Please attack specific ideas, not groups of people.

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    ngl, last time some conservative started flirting with me she got pissed of when i said i wasnt interested because they were a tory flag shagger, and then she called me a slur because im queer

  • “Why won’t women, objects meant to feed and pleasure me, give me the time of day like this super old-ass book I had read and interpreted to me by someone who is likely a child molester said they should? Do they worship Saytahn?”

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    Being ok with being conservative is akin to being ok with being stupid. It’s basically an admission of idiocy.

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        Ignorance is a choice, too. I’ve met so many people who are proud of being ignorant. I once met a woman who was in her mid 30s who was explicitly against learning new things because…reasons?

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          Gonna have to agree to disagree on that one, barring very different understandings of the word “stupidity.” Cognition and action are different things, and pretending they’re the same doesn’t improve the efficacy of interventions.

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      Seriously, conservatives want to pretend like we’re all just regular people so what do our political views matter right? But if The last 8 years have taught me anything it is that every conservative is some level of a bigot, even if you can get along with them, purely based off their political goals. Sorry, you can’t just work your ass off to deny people rights and sequester people you don’t like, then call it a “political view”.

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      Conservatives: “The free market is superior! Deal with it!”

      Conservatives when the free market decides against them: “THIS IS LITERALLY SOCIALISM”

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      Pffft, just means that your beliefs have consequences.

      Something something tolerance paradox.

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        You realise that beliefs are a shifting scale, right? Not everybody with beliefs right of center are alt-right Nazis. I can’t stand those people either.

        I used to be similar to you, until I met people with a whole host of opinions. I wish you well.

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          Sounds like you’re suffering from an acute case of ‘feels before reals’ to me.

          Not particularly surprising or shocking that women are less likely to date men who vote conservative. Ignoring the simple fact that the data suggests America is becoming less tolerant of intolerance, and that conservatives are increasingly out of step with majority opinion, the recent abortion thing is a real lady boner killer, as is making excuses for a convicted sex offender.

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            Sounds like you’re suffering from an acute case of ‘feels before reals’ to me.

            Says the people that say that trans men have no advantage in women’s sports? I think you’re projecting here.

            Not particularly surprising or shocking that women are less likely to date men who vote conservative.

            What data is there to prove that? Nothing. Even if that were true, I would be glad that they don’t get hoes that sleep around with other guys.

            making excuses for a convicted sex offender.

            That is funny coming from the folk that support MAPs.

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              That is funny coming from the folk that support MAPs.

              I refuse to accept that you believe supporting paedophiles is a position LGBTQ people hold in any capacity

              You can only be pretending to believe that

              It is so absurd

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      Are you in therapy, the gym, the sun, etc?

      Not judging. It’s fucking hard.

      You don’t need to be buff or tan to get girls, but you do need to be healthy and confident.

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        Absolutely. I’ve been working really hard to improve my health both mentally and physically. I’m down 75 lbs. I’m trying to be the best version of myself.