• HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    It’s all about probabilities.

    Truth is proof, and the article contains no details to establish this absolutely. So, we are left with supposition.

    This wasn’t an isolated man with nothing to live for - while his career in AI was over, he’d left it to pursue a moral agenda. Suicide is not likely until AFTER he testifies and discharged this.

    The fact he supposedly had documents and a testimony that could heavily harm a company is enough to make it very likely his death was the cost of doing business - why pay a billion in a court case when you can pay a million for a professional hit?

    On the balance of probabilities, it looks more likely to be like foul play. As they say, Epstein didn’t kill himself.

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    So when does the all out manhunt with every possible available resource deployed to find the killer begin?

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    Why not establish armed compounds where we the people keep whistleblowers safe?

    Some private rancho in Texas with armed guards and lots of cameras?

    Clearly gov is failing to protect them.

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    So many whistleblowers ending up dead. I’m sure it’s just a coincidence. Hundreds of coincidences.

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      Can’t we try and fund our own armed compounds for whistleblowers?

      Especially the ones that benefit working class cause like this guy - because AI stealing our data is a threat to all of us.

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        It’s so bad because people will happily cheer it on. But eventually it will just be used to go after political opponents and just classes of people that whoever is in charge doesn’t like. We have so, so many dumb and sometimes even conflicting crimes on the books that the average American unwittingly breaks a few federal laws and usually a myriad of state laws (most being outdated or blue book laws) every week. For some people near state borders it can be everyday.

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    Oh, I see how it is. They keep killing and killing, but we hit ONE CEO and shit hits the fan. Alright, then.

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      In some countries some people prefer to suicide themselves alone in their rooms without warning. In other countries, they prefer to suicide themselves by shooting themselves multiple times in the back and/or throwing themselves off of multiple storey buildings. Who can say? It’s not like countries led by psychopaths who put profit margins above society, including people’s lives, would ever kill people to defend their bottom line.

      There’s two barriers to justice in today’s world: The first one is having enough money to hire lawyers. The second one is having enough money to hire bodyguards.

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    You gotta set up a dead man’s switch (not literal give the evidence to a lawyer or do a deposition or whatever). Do that before you blow the whistle and announce that at the same time.

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    Its crazy how fast you die once you blow that whistle. All out class war on one side.

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    Bill Burr has this take that corporations are the mobsters of yore, they just kneecap or whack people in different ways because the law is on their side now. Until it’s not.

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      The inputs of the model are full copies of copyrighted data, so the “amount used” is the entirety of the copyrighted work.

      If you want to apply current copyright law to the inner working of artificial networks, you run into the problem that it doesn’t work on humans either.

      A human remembering copyrighted works, be it memorization or regular memory, similarly is creating a copy of that copyighted work in their brain somewhere.
      There is no law criminalizing the knowledge or inspiration a human obtains from consuming media they did not have the rights to consume. (In many places it isn’t even illegal to aquire and consume media you don’t have rights to, only to provide it to others without those rights)

      Criminalizing knowledge, or brains containing knowledge, can’t possibly be a good idea, and I think neural nets are too close to the function of the brain to apply current regulation to one but not the other. You would at minimum need laws explicitly specifying to only apply to digital neural nets or something similar, and it apears this page is trying to work in existing regulation. (If we do create law only applying to digital neural nets, and we ever create intelligent enough ai it could deservedly be called a person, then I’m sure that ai wouldn’t be greatly happy about weird discriminatory regulation applying to only its brain but not that of all the other people on this planet.)

      A neural net is working too similarly to the human brain to call the neural net a copy but the human brain “learning, memorization, inspiration”. If you wanna avoid criminalizing thoughts, I don’t see a way to make the arguments this website makes.

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      I was talking to my cousin (journalist) a while ago and she told me how she was supposed to interview a whistleblower for Anaheim PD. I snarkily commented something like, “yeah but let me guess he shot himself twice in the back of the head” and she alarmingly said “…yeah, how did you know?”

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        I’m surprised that she would be surprised by that, it’s like the most obvious thing ever lol

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    Idk everyone is doing the "he was killed but

    The medical examiner’s office determined the manner of death to be suicide and police officials this week said there is “currently, no evidence of foul play.”

    Isn’t it possible the guy was troubled and just actually killed himself?

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      Can’t see the forest for the trees.

      The problem isn’t that this guy might have killed himself. The problem is that the death rate of whistleblowers is very high. That makes every individual case much more suspect, and should be held to higher standards of scrutiny. And they aren’t. So we complain.

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        I’m just saying assuming this was a murder seems premature. Thinking this is sus makes more sense

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          There’s also the possibility of him receiving threats so horrible he was coerced into suicide. “No foul play” just seems so incredibly unlikely.

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      People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

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        People also kill themselves daily (well those who succeed do it just the once)

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      its most certainly possible. but its also possible it was not since billions of dollars are at stake.

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        Yes I just mean that I wouldn’t consider it a murder without any indication of it being one

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        He was a king pedo going to prison for the rest of his life and had tried kill himself before. I definitely would’ve tried to kill myself given the chance tbh

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          If you read up on that incident though, so many things had to go wrong for him to have an opportunity to do it while locked up that it’s really hard to not consider foul play no matter what the prison or the government says about it.

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            There’s a difference between him having been murdered and giving him the opportunity to kill himself. Second case would mean that he actually did hang himself

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      When you consider the billions that are at stake in cramming “AI” into computers, cars, phones, agit-prop generation and military hardware, I there’s a non-zero chance that his death wasn’t accidental. Maybe a second coroner’s opinion is in order.

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    So? He was Poor! Let me know when a RICH PERSON dies and THEN I’ll care!