• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Soooo his mom is Jewish and his dad is Irish…feels like you’re reeeeeeeally reaching for an “America Bad” here

    • FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee
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      1 month ago

      More just “America odd”. From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry and talk about it like it’s their nationality. Just a culture difference.

      Also be careful about assuming a Northern Irish protestant identifies as Irish!

      • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee
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        1 month ago

        That’s what happens when almost everyone in the country had ancestors who only came here in the last 200 years. The “American identity” is founded in the idea that either we or our ancestors were born somewhere else and then came here. It’s much different than someplace like the UK where so many are probably within a days walk of where one of their 10th great grandparents lived.

        • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          1 month ago

          Nah bro. Elsewhere in the Americas people identify with the country they were born at. It’s a cultural trait. When you start justifying with fake exceptionalism is when you make it weird.

          • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee
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            1 month ago

            Not sure what your point is. The US is incredibly diverse, and that diversity has very modern roots (when compared to many other diverse countries). That’s not exceptionalism, that’s just demographics. It’s not a competition. Combined with large internal migrations over its history and its large size, many Americans live in cities and regions they have no historical family connection to. So when answering a question about why “Americans seem to be very obsessed with their nationality” it seemed relevant.

      • dezmd@lemmy.world
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        From a British perspective Americans seem to be very obsessed with their ancestry

        Oh ok, well, in the mean time, say hi to your King and the Royal Family and your other nobility by ancestry for us.

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          Don’t worry, most of us find it pretty odd too, but apparently American media fucking loves them!

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            1 month ago

            American media love a spectacle… just like how non-Americans seem to delight in watching Americans self-immolate.

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        1 month ago

        No, thats not just a British protective, that all of the world.

        It is well known how Americans use their ancestry, just as you described.
        And yes, it’s just odd, perhaps irritating (for Europeans), but it’s just how they decided to (self-?) identity, let them express themselves. And it’s not like they are keeping it a secret :).