• magnusrufus@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “You can’t know if someone is a dipshit until after you interact with them, btw.” That you said that is kinda at odds with what you are saying now.

    If you are going to treat all members of a group as being the same as the worst members you have met then you are just choosing to be a bigot.

    The issue isn’t trans people as a whole. It’s also not even close to half of trans people. There is something unique about your situation.

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      6 months ago

      This person is either lying, or had some karen at the coffee shop go off, and is now stretching that. I have family in Boston, Including a couple that live Jamaica Plains. That has been like LGBTQ central for a while. They, and no one they know, have ever been assaulted by people over privilege, pronouns, or for being white/straight/male/cis. They said the only place they have ever seen such eruptions of behavior is online, meaning it’s just the rare karen.

      That, or they are bigot that goes out and agitates this type of behavior. Then frames it in a manner in which they are the victim.

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        6 months ago

        this was in Jamaica Plain at Espresso Love last new years day.

        And yes, everyone who i ever tell this too denies it happened to me. because I’m a big strong white guy… so nothing bad can ever happen to me. I’m clearly a bigoted POS and if i didn’t put it on tiktok it doesn’t exist.

        I’d rather just not deal with violence and crazy people whose insecurity is so rampant they need to assault others to feel powerful. I will just mind my peace and go to places not full of angry people who scream at being for getting coffee.

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      6 months ago

      no, it’s basic survival instinct.

      if i eat the purple berries and they make me puke, i’m not going to eat them again. am i now bigoted against purple berries? or should i just keep eating them and getting sick and doing it over and over again?

      just like if i have a shitty meal at a restaurant, i won’t go back to that place, or that chain if it’s a chain. etc etc.

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        6 months ago

        The inherent traits of a species of berries is not comparable to the behavior of an entire demographic. If you treat all trans people as though they are unhinged or looking for the slightest excuse to be offended then that is as much bigoted behavior and stereotyping as treating all Mexicans as lazy or all black people as criminals or all Irish as angry drunks. People are not berries. Their treatment of you isn’t coming from the genetic level.

        You may have had some legit crazy fringe case experiences and the shock and hurt that you would feel from that would be very valid but if you turn immediately from that to “if I’m gonna be treated like a bigot then I’ll just be a bigot” then there are some worrisome seeds already planted. If things went as you described them then you had some unfair encounters but those handful of experiences are not close to enough to judge all trans people by. That’s hard to grapple with if there is still that emotional sting from those experiences. I do understand the reaction of “fine I’ll show you just much I can be the thing you wrongly accused me of being”. I’ve been guilty of that in other contexts. But it’s destructive and toxic. It makes the people treating you wrongly feel completely justified. It makes you act like a terrible person that you are not.

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          6 months ago

          I didn’t until 2022 or so. I have been repeatedly assaulted the past few years, verbally and i have been physically assaulted by them. Some of them spread rumors about me. I’m done with them now. They treated me wrongly, and now I don’t care about being friendly and welcoming to them anymore, justifiably.

          Keep moral grand standing all you want. If a group of people repeatedly harassed you I don’t you’d be so high minded about it. You’re arguing genetics, I’m protecting myself from mentally unwell people who have arbitrarily decided I’m the enemy because they are on tiktok too much and believe their violence is 100% justified as long as it’s towards people who look are cishet and white.

          Truth is i’m not even what they think I am. I’m gender fluid, but I just look like a cis-hit white guy, so they go apeshit on me.