Don’t forget that it’s politically advantageous to have a big bad enemy country to unite your party. For Democrats, it’s Russia. For Republicans, it’s China.
Obviously both Russia and China are authoritarian as all fuck, but Israel is an authoritarian occupier as well, and we’re perfectly fine with them.
Sure, but who isn’t “against” China in the West? They commit atrocities left and right.
But I think it’d be more difficult to find many who’d support military conflict with China, proxy or otherwise.
Edit: honestly, scratch that. I think it would be pretty easy to get popular support for a conflict with China, in the same way it was easy to get popular and unwavering support for a conflict with Russia
I mean, there’s really only one whataboutism in my comment (what about Palestine and Israel), but sure, you can say there are four in there.
And honestly I think it’s a fair point. The US is not purely interested in defending nation states from authoritarian occupation, because if we were, we’d not support the state of Israel in their oppression of Palestinians. So there must be other factors behind our support for Ukraine, some might be legitimate (protecting Ukrainian exports to keep global economy stable) and others not so much (protecting profits for private arms companies). And I think it’s more likely the latter, considering the size of our “defense” budget.
What do you have to say to that? I’m interested in your take, not in you just accusing me of whataboutism.
Don’t forget that it’s politically advantageous to have a big bad enemy country to unite your party. For Democrats, it’s Russia. For Republicans, it’s China.
Obviously both Russia and China are authoritarian as all fuck, but Israel is an authoritarian occupier as well, and we’re perfectly fine with them.
Democratic Party are also against China.
- Signed, a millennial Democrat against China.Sure, but who isn’t “against” China in the West? They commit atrocities left and right.
But I think it’d be more difficult to find many who’d support military conflict with China, proxy or otherwise.
Edit: honestly, scratch that. I think it would be pretty easy to get popular support for a conflict with China, in the same way it was easy to get popular and unwavering support for a conflict with Russia
Hard to tell, is that a double, trifecta, or grand slam of whattaboutism?
In any case, hats off. Your skills are on point.
I mean, there’s really only one whataboutism in my comment (what about Palestine and Israel), but sure, you can say there are four in there.
And honestly I think it’s a fair point. The US is not purely interested in defending nation states from authoritarian occupation, because if we were, we’d not support the state of Israel in their oppression of Palestinians. So there must be other factors behind our support for Ukraine, some might be legitimate (protecting Ukrainian exports to keep global economy stable) and others not so much (protecting profits for private arms companies). And I think it’s more likely the latter, considering the size of our “defense” budget.
What do you have to say to that? I’m interested in your take, not in you just accusing me of whataboutism.
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