Sorry for the headline. I don’t know why they don’t just say it’s Vivek Ramaswamy.
To that end, I will accept Russian control of the occupied territories and pledge to block Ukraine’s candidacy for NATO in exchange for Russia exiting its military alliance with China. I will end sanctions and bring Russia back into the world market. In this way, I will elevate Russia as a strategic check on China’s designs in East Asia.
Never thought I’d see somebody worse than trump so quickly.
he also wants to remove federal regulatory and law enforcement agencies. Including, the IRS. Whose job it is… to you know… pay the government’s bills…
They are doing it on purpose. He’s 38 years old, no one is letting him near the presidency. But these over the top statements are intended to make some other candidate look like not the craziest guy in the room.
You know that’s actually not the craziest hypothesis
I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn’t have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.
Great bang for your buck with free news media advertising by pretending to run for president and saying crazy stuff.
After hearing he wanted to start his own right wing talk show his character and mannerisms made so much more sense.
Apologies for the facebook link (They start talking about him around the 14 min mark and the comment on his talk show plans is at 20 mins)
https://www.facebook.com/abcplanetamerica/videos/3482537835297757These people are honestly disgusting
Chances are he doesn’t even believe the nonsense coming out of his own mouth, but society rewards these people with riches beyond their wildest imagination so they keep doing it.
I was watching a review of the GOP debates by some US political junkies just last week and one of the hosts said that Vivek knows he doesn’t have a chance but is using this presidential run to get exposure for his planned foray into right wing talk show host. Something like Tucker or Alex Jones.
or he wants to be VP.
That was the common thought about Trump in 2016…
What would have happened if he lost? Probably exactly that.
Yeah, that was the feeling, that he was gearing up to start his own OANN style network.
Dude is worth like a billion dollars. Why would he want to be talk show host?
Besides that the fact that running for pres, can theoretically be used as a springboard into conservative media, what was their argument?
Why would Elon Musk want to own a social media company?
Billionaires are weirdos.
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What reason other than ego is needed by the wealthy? They don’t need to consider pros/cons like the rest of us do. You see the kind of following right wing talk show types build? I could very much see someone wanting that just because they can do it.
Shifting the Overton Window
Damn, it’s working.
Maybe that guy is not the craziest person in the room.
There’s a lot of competition. I mean he’s meek, so it isn’t always clear, but Mike Pence is fucking nuts.
Its basically the exact same method movie theatres use to sell overpriced popcorn…
Not sure what that says about people but probably nothing good.
More likely he’s doing this on purpose to gain notoriety and wealth through media presence
Also he’s trying to evade lawsuits
Well yeah, but maybe both? They probably offered him a talking head show already.
*edit aaaaand the guy above says he has his tv show
It could be both
“They’d never let this guy take power!”
Where the fuck have you been.
Considering one of his opponents tried to destroy the happiest place on earth, signed into law a law that allows people to kidnap kids, and worked as a torturer at gitmo, that is saying something
Plus he’s brown. With a foreign sounding name.
The chances of Trumpy Republicans abandoning Dear Leader and voting en mass for an Indian looking guy are vanishingly small.
Widening the Overton Window. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
It’s like “conservatives” are actually compelled to make the worst, most unethical choice, every time…
those aren’t conservatives. Biden is a conservative. GOP are regressives.
“Conservative” in USian means “fascist”.
No: conservatism is tribalism. It’s always been “well someone’s gotta be king.” That is the origin of the term, right back to the invention of the modern republic. It’s just hierarchy plus excuses.
Conservatism is about conserving the traditional practices and values. If the practice is tribalism, then it may be what is conserved, but it can be something else.
Are we going to have to do this every 4 years? Just roll the dice and risk some wholly unqualified asshole, somehow even worse that the former guy, becoming president so he or she can just shit on the people and the planet for the next 4 fucking years?
I am so tired of this bullshit.
Not forever. Now and probably 2028. The people they are appealing to are dying and are rapidly being replaced by the youth. By 2032 they won’t be enough to dominate an entire party. They will return to the fringe.
We’re at a point where they are so close to codifying their reign into our country’s laws that it will no longer matter if they have a majority or not.
Until we become the old assholes for not engaging enough into the ecological transition.
For the forseeable future? yes.
Personally. I plan to go start a lunar colony, then mars, then jupiter. Build up a space civilization of enlightened scientists who… will tolerate my leadership because “well at least it’s not as bad as on earth.”
Enough scientists are feral enough to just throw someone out an airlock. That shit would rapidly devolve into some demented form of anarcho-syndacalism.
There’s a lot worse than Trump. Trump is dumb AF and is easily persuaded. I’m doubting that Trump ever actually came up with an idea of his own. He’s a puppet through and through.
he came up with the idea of having a button that summons diet coke,
He also came up with the name “Space Force” and they let him pick a new color scheme for Air Force One.
It seems that some candidates believe that to win against Trump you have to be dumber than him.
Just look at all his accomplishments like … … … … and … … … … and don’t forget … … … …
Also, we should remember that time he…
Is this guy campaigning for American votes, or a Russian paycheck?
Yes. And failing that, yes.
Neither, I think his job is to absorb the negative attention so T looks less unhinged or maybe separate off the crazier magas.
Isn’t it possible that Vivek is just nuts?
Would you put someone “just nuts” in front of a tv camera? But really, I’ve never known the gop to just roll with whomever, their messaging is tightly controlled. If he is up there it’s for a reason.
Would you put someone “just nuts” in front of a tv camera?
Have you seen today’s GOP? Trump, Marj Green, Lauren Boebert, Jim Jordan… the crazy is a feature, not a bug, In Republican politics.
I’ve never known the gop to just roll with whomever, their messaging is tightly controlled.
All the tightly message-controlled Republican candidates in 2016 got thumped by Trump. The Republican party doesn’t even have a platform. They’re literally just rolling with some guy right now.
If he is up there it’s for a reason.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity… or craziness.
Yeah, occam’s says it’s a political ploy. We are literally discussing candidates and how they present themselves. To legitimately bring in mental health seems a stretch.
We’ve put Trump, and previously 2nd term Reagan in front. So…yes?
At least they don’t even try to hide how much they are in bed with Russia anymore.
… but, but, but they’re the “true patriot” party! No one is more American than Republicans! 1!!
/s
Russia can’t even control it’s own military with success, how the fuck are they gonna challenge China and put them on check. Lol this fuckin puppet has the whole arm in him.
Dont give this stupid ass a platform. Just dont talk about him. All the negative press is what gave credence to Trump by the anti crowd.
100% THIS.
I think it’s a little too late for that at this point. And I doubt posting this on Lemmy will get anyone to vote for him.
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You know whats the funny thing here?
Republicans at this point are just fighting over who will be the worst and most fucked up and evil mother fucker?
Thats what attracts the republican voters.
Of course, because Republicans get money from Russia to betray their country. What’s sad is that it doesn’t take much.
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I’m not into US politics other than the basics, but let me tell every American that the consequences of something like this happening will be catastrophic, and then you’ll “fight” China alone, if not with more opponents.
Trump was already a huge liability to European foreign policy, if it happens again, the EU will dissociate from the US, weaponize and go nuclear. The eastern countries will enter direct conflict with Russia eventually (sooner than later), and the whole continent will get dragged into the war. At the end who ever is left will not support the US, actively be against it, and have nuclear weapons.
In terms of European nuclear weapons, the UK and France already have their own nuclear arsenals. But the broader content of your comment is bang on.
So you’re saying I should support Trump to stop the US empire. Interesting proposal.
'Course that assumes US allies aren’t already looking for the exists regardless of the next election…
Not the OP, but they never said to support Trump. In fact, they said he was also bad.
Yeah I’m just teasing - ultimately I can’t bring myself to vote for someone that’ll enable my own internment in a concentration camp. As much as I hate America I also don’t really want to die anymore lol
How the actual fuck are the Republicans not getting hammered in the polls?
Americans have been brainwashed for decades with ‘communism bad’ propaganda, so it seems mind-boggling that Republicans are so willing to give the former Soviet Union any control over Ukrainian soil. Part of the reason we’ve been fighting back against Russia’s invasion with sanctions and equipment donations has been because they’ve been NATO’s ideological enemy for decades.
I’ve actually seen a shirt that says “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat.”
So have I.
I’m not even from the same continent and it hurts my head to think of how a party whose supporters are synonymous with highly patriotic rednecks are willing to continue supporting their team after they’ve shown a categorical willingness to sell out to the enemy.
Like… I truly think some big corporation has put something in our food or drink that is making us terminally stupid.
Maybe it’s all the microplastics and PFAS.
At this point being a Republican should be considered synonymous to being part of a conspiracy to commit treason and be treated as such.
This is why some kind of civil conflict is likely. Because they are and either we are going to live in their republican hell world or they are going to make the rest of the rest of.us kill them to stop it. It is likely bc they will escalate to killing.
Can we give this turd to Russia instead?
But he’s already Russia’s turd?
Guys like Vivek don’t care about history because it’s not new or exciting.
It is couter to their perogative. Lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more its not an argument its just full on say anything at whatever opportunity. just say shit that doesn’t even make sense and defend it. Its not stupidity, its a strategy. He knows the base just go with anything violent, racist, bigot related, you know all the most vile parts that humanity has to offer.
it’s because he wants russian dark money
Luckily it’s not his to give.
Never vote Conservative/Republican/Tory or whatever name these RW crazies choose.
Vivek Ramaswamy is one of the more unappealing politicians I’ve seen in quite some time… which means that he will likely rocket up the GOP polls
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You’d probably be right about that… if he were white.
Agree 100%. There’s no way this guy is getting the conservative vote - based purely on his skin tone.
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