Seems like they are under attack again, will those people never stop? I feel sorry for the admin team.
This is why we need users to spread to more servers and create communities in them. If lemmy.world goes down that shouldn’t result in half of lemmyhub disappearing.
Yes! I tried with a niche topic like fallout but can’t get people to move over from the Lemmy world community.
was there already a fallout community on lemmy.world?
Yeah. Very inactive so I shouldn’t be surprised no one came to mine on sopuli.xyz
Right… I guess for me I’m not sure it’s all that productive to start multiple communities on the same topic? I dunno, maybe it’s good. If I’m looking for something specific, like, say turntables, and I search lemmy for a turntable community, I’m not sure it’d be a good thing to find 3-4 different lemmy communities on the topic. Perhaps I’m just thinking in older, outdated, reddit kind of thinking though.
Yeah I get it. My goal was since the Lemmy world community was pretty inactive if I can post more to encourage activity on mine I can make mine more active and the defacto community which helps get people off of Lemmy world.
If it were a community that is highly active on Lemmy world then I understand it doesn’t seem productive to re create active communities.
I have heard other people voice opinions that having multiple of the same communities over different instances is a good thing with how Lemmy works. I do wish we had a federated community so as people make more communities on different instances it more merges them into one so if one instance goes down the others are still keeping the community alive. But idk if that’s possible or on the Lemmy roadmap.
Pat a link I’ll subscribe
Let’s see if I do this right. !fallout@sopuli.xyz
Did you advertise it on the New Communities community?
I did not. Forgot about that.
Also strange is that Lemmy never notified me of your message. Haven’t had that happen before I don’t think.
Where’s that? :-)
Ironic that it’s on lemmy.world lol
I’m more of a commenter and less of a poster, but I moved away from world as my primary instance last week. Part to spread the load, part to just be able to browse.
Commenting on your comment not because I expect you to have them or anything, it’s just the top comment so hopefully someone sees this. I know there’s a handful of links out there to browse instances. Are there any that can see who’s defederated with who/ which instances are federated with the most instances? I had another account on a .ml domain instance but they got purged with a bunch of others a couple of weeks ago. I use my lemmy.world account because it has the most-ish reach for finding new communities and whatnot
You can have a look at my comment here: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
Usually https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list is a good resource
Sweet, thanks!
You are welcome!
Currently no, there isn’t a way to see that granular of detail. On my instance I have details about any defederated (blocked) instances. Currently there are none.
But there are pros and cons of joining smaller server. Since mine is small we don’t see a large list of communities, I make a point to go through and subscribe to a bunch everyday so my users can get the best experience. But without others doing some of the leg work it can be challenging. Bigger instances like lemmy.world have “seeded” with communities all over because of their large user base. Not only does lemmy.world have a ton of communities but their users have subscribed to communities outside the instance making it discoverable to others.
Unless you want to see porn or troll instances, I don’t think there’s a big difference between instances except for the fact that beehaw isn’t federated with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works
Glad I’m realizing this before getting too attached to any one account. Setting up on a few instances now.
There are tools to migrate subs/blocks
Any recommendations? Would love to sync my lemmy.world subs to some other accounts
Getting attached to any account is not recommended. Hopefully most are pretty set but I know personally if I was too run into financial trouble I would shut it down. Bigger instances do get some amount of patrons who donate to them.
And it’s back up again! Kudos to the team!
Down again it seems. People seriously need to switch away from lemmy.world. Every single time it goes down so much content goes down with it. It’s annoying.
I did this early on after realizing my mistake, promptly moved to vlemmy.net which after a couple weeks went totally mia.
Moved again… It’s a toss-up though. I want an instance big enough to stay updated, and have an active community, but not turn into .world or vlemmy.
You should be safe on infosec.pub, jerry is a great admin
Here’s to hoping!! I also worked with infosec group at my previous employer a lot and really grew to appreciate that field so I felt like a good fit !
That’s great!
It’s working now. Indeed, I hope they will.
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Because they’re on lemdro.id as lemmy provider, not lemmy.world. That’s the @ part in the user name.
I recommend people move away from Lemmy.world. Having ~28% of Lemmy users on a single instance is not good for the health of Lemmy overall.
For those that want to move to a different instance, here is a link to Lemmy instances sorted by user count: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Is there an easy way to move all my subscriptions over?
We’re not allowed to have nice things.
Thankfully, other instances are still up and allow us to talk about it.
Back in the days, when Reddit or Twitter were down, it was down for the whole userbase.
Yes, and we can do something about our own instances. Depending on your reverse proxy there’s a couple options.
Definitely!
how? I just use Sync for Lemmy and it seems like everything is down when lemmy.world is. I don’t really know how Lemmy works, or where different things I subscribe to are based.
Your account is on lemmy.world, so it fails to get any and all data. Accounts on other instances can interact with historic data.
You have to think of lemmy.world as your lemmy provider. Just like with e-mail you have your own email provider from the ISP, or gmail, or … If your own provider is down, you can’t receive or send mails, but all other people can send mails to each other. It’s the same with lemmy, but then for reading posts and send comments to that instance/provider.
Perfect. This makes sense, thank you.
Have a look at this comment: https://sopuli.xyz/comment/1603292
Nice things cost money and I don’t have it. So, checks out.
The company running lw are asking for free unpaid 150k+a year admin work.
Fuck them. Someone run this personally and start a non profit.
It’s been this way for weeks, actually. I haven’t seen a graph of the uptime, but I’m sure one would look extremely ugly, based on my own user experience.
This right here is an alt, and despite the fact that I don’t prefer to comment from it, since I won’t necessarily check in soon to see replies, it’s seeing some heavy use.
The attacks a few weeks ago weren’t a one-off, they never stopped. It seems down maybe half the time or so?
One of the many ways we (all of Lemmy) are not quite ready for the mainstream yet, we still have basic technical/security issues to resolve. Soon, though.
88% on weekly basis https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
96.4 uptime
Isn’t it 88 based on their own status page? https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
If either of those figures is actually accurate from an end-user standpoint, then the entire downtime must be coming during my primary periods of usage.
Both are quite high (ex. 88% is 43 days a year, ~3hrs daily rounded up)
As you’re probably based in Canada, that might be it. I’m in Europe and usually their downtime happens during our nights
The last 7 days yeah. I was looking here https://lemmy-world.statuspage.io/
96.3 now.
What does not kill you, makes you stronger. The only thing these script kiddies are doing is strength training the world admins.
Yeah fucking up uptime during a period people are looking to migrate away from an ingrained product is definitely the path to a successful and strong network. Just like asking for unpaid admins (typically $100-200 an hour) to price on call duty for free.
What you are seeing is a business cheap out, have zero clue or plan about scale, not give two fucks about privacy, and trick you all into giving that business a free pass for being shitty and execute poorly.
This isn’t making shit stronger. It means normies will always make sure this place is the new 4chan.
What the fuck to literally all of this
Its really unfortunate. Im working on setting up my own personal instance right now. Im really grateful for all the work Lemmy.world has done, but im just getting tired of not being able to use Lemmy maybe 1/8th of the time I open the app.
Just a +1 for decentralized social media. The fact that I can just set up my own instance when im not 100% happy with the one im currently on is awesome.
Right, and thats the issue. I host an instance but we only have a few users. Our instance does run very very well though because we don’t get a ton of user traffic.
Enjoy!
Are they suffering DDOS attacks? They might need something like Cloudflare to combat this. Maybe some kind of reverse-proxy if the attack isn’t super massive.
Already running Cloudflare.
Ah shite.
“Always Online” ™️
That doesn’t really work for logged in users though, right?
The current issue is actually an ongoing DB issue. It’s not solely affecting LW.
Yes. My instance will sometime have unusual high load and it will overload the cpu unless restarted. 0.18.3 doesn’t seems to fix it, and it only affect some instance but not all. It’s hard to pinpoint what cause the loop to happen.
I think lemmy.world is too large for the health of the fediverse. A nasty incident which takes it down permanently could “kill” Lemmy as a whole. Perhaps a sign up stop is in order.
I moved to a different instance about a month ago, after lemmy.world got hacked. I haven’t had any issues on Midwest.social. I suggest other people do the same if they want Lemmy to be feasible in the long term. Get the fuck off Lemmy.world.
Here is a list of instances sorted by user count if anyone wants to move: https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy
Great resource. Why is hexbear split into two?
Instead of blocking sign-ups we can have Lemmy’s sign up automatically recommend other servers.
Another developer and I already have a PR in development for it.
Here’s the idea in more detail: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726
I agree, but they plan on making a message on the sign up screen encouraging users but not stopping sign up so… 🤷♂️
sh.itjust.works to the rescue
Or find a smaller instance. If everyone joins a bigger instance it’s just moving the problem
I think we’ll be good if everyone splits up relatively evenly between the top 10-20 instances.
Yuh
It’s getting really annoying. Is there an mobile friendly way to migrate my account from lemmy.world to lemmy.zip?
You can always have multiple accounts
I guess the issue is to importing the huge list of blocked instances to the new account
I’ll concede, that’s a legitimately useful timesaver.
Yes, exactly. Blocked and subscribed as well
Why do you block instances? Sorry, new here
Because I have no interest in them, or they are NSFW and don’t tag properly, or they are duplicates with ones I already follow (technology communities are a good example)
I personally follow all the technology communities and just show new subscribed content on my main page. Some content is the same but there’s a lot of different posts too.
It kind of sucks that there’s several sub’s with a lot of people but then again, that’s the point, right?
You do you, I just prefer to block them, as long as we are both happy, that’s what matters!
Unfortunately, I don’t think there is anything on mobile yet. The best tool for this is LASIM on desktop.
Thanks! Gonna have to find some way to get to a PC or Mac.
If you’re on Android you can use Termux to run lemmy_migrate, it’s a Python script
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Hello,
Hm, I’m afraid at this moment the most common solution is https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim, which requires a computer. Would you be able to get access to one at some point later?
I have access to my work MacBook. Would that work?
I’m not an expert in Rust, but I guess it should!
LASIM author here - it should! Though Mac OS X is the one platform I can’t test on myself - I can build it through Github, and everything I did should be cross-platform, but I can’t actually launch it myself to make sure everything is working fine.
Only other thing might be if their work Macbook imposes any restrictions on running arbitrary binaries from the internet - which it understandably might.
Ooh, I didn’t know about this, thank you. I’ve primarily been using kbin, but this sounds like a good tool to bookmark for the future.
lemmy.world has been so unstable for that I decided to switch to another instance. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse though.
I setup my own Uptime Kuma Monitor for lemmy.world just for fun… the statistics are crazy
I keep hearing about people switching, but is it just registering a new account at another instance? I joined world but would gladly jump instances to something more stable.
Just pick a mid-sized instance and there’s a 99% chance it’s more stable than Lemmy.world right now.
Look at users who don’t sound insane and see where they’re posting from.
What happens if that instance shuts down?
I have accounts on multiple instances. My Lemmy app lets me just switch accounts easily if one is having issues.
Hey, sorry for the late reply.
You can either look at https://join-lemmy.org/ or https://lemmyverse.net/ to find a new instance.I also found this tool that helps you to sync communities you’re subscribed to to other accounts on other instances: https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
Edit: I found another migration tool which has a GUI, haven’t tested it yet though. https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Oof that’s brutal. Didn’t realize it was that bad.
There’s a lot of small instances wanting to become medium/big instances and share the load, but people need to show a bit of initiative and join them. I just made this account, and here’s a list of a few other small servers with room to spare. YMMV but these all look pretty solid at a glance.
Can I transfer my subscribed list and anything else?
You can transfer your subscriptions using this tool, but your posts and comments obviously can’t be transferred.
https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
At least that’s what I’ve been told, I haven’t used it myself.
Does the colored bar on top have a measure?
Enjoy your new instance
Thanks!
Status page: https://lemmy-status.org/endpoints/_lemmy-world
It was always going to happen but an instance being the defacto default for Lemmy is a bad thing.
There really needs to be a tool to help people pick an instance, but even then people would just flock to the general instances like .world anyway
I also think instances just need to have more sane urls. It sounds silly but like it or not branding does matter. Instances like beehaw and sh.itjust.works just rub me the wrong way during first impressions. Even some of my friends who I’ve tried to introduce to Lemmy are just like…“what the fuck kinda website are you making me go to?” I am not surprised that lemmy.world is big, partly because the URL actually sounds official.
We also need super-communities that pull in content from multiple communities/instances, better multi-instance search, and a way to migrate between instances before the masses will be okay with smaller instances.
Views that show you multiple communities would be great. Let me see both major Steam Deck communities in one view.
Sound like you should join the dev team as an idea person, I support you
It makes sense that general purpose instances would have the most users. I’m not a programmer so while I could still register there why would I pick programmer.dev?
The bigger issue I had in picking an instance was just in understanding the differences. I think it would help if instances advertised their stance on defederation, moderation, etc… to help people make a decision (or even to see that lemmy.world may be more similar to some other instances than they might think).
multiple accounts, one macro, one micro, works wonders. i like my lemm.ee account more but lemmy.world was my gateway as it was the one advertised to me
Indeed, and it seems like it’s down again
Uhh, jeepers I’m on my NSFW account because my main lemmy account is on lemmy.world. Hamburgers.
Myself and another developer are working on something we think will solve this:
OP: https://lemm.ee/post/2800726 TLDR: Automatic User Distribution
Whenever someone goes to the sign up page, for example, on Lemmy.world, we:
- look at the recommender list
- find the server that is most under capacity
- have a very large iframe with “Sign up for Lemmy (using [under capacity server here])”
- have a small “No, I want to sign up specifically on Lemmy.world” option
Would also be cool to have like a short questionnaire, like picking your class in Morrowind, but instead you end up on a German industrial metal music instance.
Hopefully more will join smaller instances.
