• GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Their plan B is the same as their plan A, to lose. And instead of liberals demanding their party offer another solution they demand everyone else support the DNC hand picked genocidal pedo. And instead of facing that reality they downvote the truth like this post and keep their heads in the sand. When he loses, and he will, they will blame everyone and everything but their own hubris

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      10 months ago

      Maybe the downvotes are because what you say is stupid and wrong? Like, have you ever considered you’re wrong? Or are you so certain that you’re right and everyone is out to get you?

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      Don’t you love how the GOP never hates on their base as a bunch of illiterate trailer park hicks who would die from drowning looking up at the rain without state support (even though that’s accurate) but the DNC post-Carter CANNOT do enough punching left against their own activist base who give time and money and votes to them for literally nothing in return? And they will blame their voters for their own not trying to win after not allowing a primary. My position post-2020 Obama making the non-Biden neolibs drop out to cheat is I will NEVER again vote for a party that tries to defeat my part of the coalition in the primary with more force than they use against the ACTUAL alleged enemy in the general. And I used to poll stand and phone bank and shit from 1992 to 2018. Good luck getting your new Liz Cheney base out to do that assholes, I hope Trump sends you all to Gitmo after you let him win.

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        the GOP never hates on their base

        What are you talking about, the GOP has driven out everyone who won’t support Trump, some of them got literal death threats after years of loyal support. Even his primary opponents are afraid to criticize him.

        Democrats don’t “hate their base”, you’re just whining because they didn’t nominate your favorite candidate.

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          The GOP base is a bunch of bible thumping illiterates in the cornfield who have taken Trump as their new god, not Liz Cheney.

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            In the process they intentionally drove out anyone in their base who would not support Trump, including people who like Liz Cheney.

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              And they’re about to win a second Trump term, so what is the downside for them? I’d rather not be on Liz Cheney’s side and I’d rather win elections and they’re winning on both fronts there.

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                10 months ago

                Glad we agree that Republicans do in fact hate on their base.

                Democrats won the popular vote in 7 out of 8 of the last presidential elections, despite constant doom and gloom over polls from PUMAs and their equivalents.

                Biden himself was predicted to lose his 2020 primary and suffer a 2022 Red Wave. So I’m not particularly worried about 2024.

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                  If sticking your head in the sand is a winning 2024 strategy, you have nothing to worry about. I think you neolibs underestimate how much you relied on us pre-2020 to poll stand and door knock and phone bank for GOTV. Without everyone getting a mail in home ballot, I’m highly skeptical it will work out your way, but this cycle will be an interesting test, maybe you and Liz Cheney literally don’t need us and you’ll be happier together. We’ll see in November.

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                    Yet Democrats won in 2020 and 2022 despite you and the other Bernie bros having peaced out.

                    I think leftists overestimate how much Democrats rely on them. Leftists are too prone to take their ball and go home when they don’t get everything they want. This is why they don’t form successful long-term coalitions.