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The animator then asked Maher what the “downside” of “getting a vaccine” was, which caused the comedian to go on an anti-vax tirade.

“The fact that you the fact that you don’t even have a clue what’s the cost of getting a vaccine that you don’t know the answer to that. You completely want to shut your eyes to the fact that there are repercussions to all medical interventions, including a vaccine, all vaccines,” he ranted. “They come, they say side effects, just like every medication does. You can see it in the literature. They can’t write it on their back on the vaccine. So you have to dig them. And of course, there is a vaccine court because so many people have been injured.”

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    Maher is one of those older guys who thinks they figured everything out 30 years ago and doesn’t need to try any more. The epitome of a lazy, entitled boomer.

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      The problem with Bill Maher has nothing to do with his age. He sucks, it’s true, but lots of guys exactly the same age as him do not suck.

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        lots of guys exactly the same age as him do not suck.

        I get that but it’s absolutely connected to his age. He’s spent the last 30 years in a bubble of wealth and privilege and has never had any pressure to update his thinking.

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          This. He has no idea what it’s like to be an average person anymore so his commentary is disconnected and misses the point. The guy lives in an echo chamber… I honestly can’t believe he still has a show because I don’t know anyone that still watches.

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            What amusing is that he frequently accuses both the left and the right of existing in their own little bubbles. Self awareness isn’t his strong suit.

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              Wie all are vulnerable to misconception. I think many people are just not aware to this fact or too lazy to question their own thoughts regularly.

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            I still watch, despite agreeing with what is being said in this thread. I guess I do like that he takes controversial guests for example. Even if I don’t like or agree with that person or Bill, I’m interested to hear what’s being said. I don’t just mean his one-on-ones at the start either. He has some fun conversation table guests too.

            Oh man, he had had Ted Cruz in early November. Cringe. But then the week after that he had Albert Brooks and Rob Reiner, which was super fun to see those goofballs.

            He also had Andrew Cuomo and Melissa DeRosa on the show around Halloween. It was interesting actually. I had written him off. It seems that allegations were pursued against Andrew and they came up with pretty much nothing. Yeah he’s awkward and such, and I’m not sure I trust him, but Melissa DeRosa even wrote a memoir: _ What’s left unsaid: my life, at the center of power, politics, & crisis_ and she defends Cuomo in it. I mean, if he’s such a womanizer? Why is this person he worked closely with, fiercely defending him? She worked right next to him, and I’m inclined to believe she had a good view of this situation. I also thought Andrew was very helpful during COVID with his daily Covid reports. Lastly, again, I’m not some Cuomo thumper either, my point was simply, I am not sure I would have heard any of this if it hadn’t been on Bill’s show.

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              Sure he has some decent guests on from time to time but so do most talk show hosts that have been on the air for decades. What I’m saying is that Bill has become stagnant and they could find another talking head to bring in more viewers with a slightly less old white dude take. But all of that being said I’m glad it helped expand your perspective and view some situations differently.

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          So, you’re admitting it’s not about his age. It’s about his wealth.

          If that’s what you’re saying I’m with you. Ageism is as wrong as any other bigotry.

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      Exactly. His successes have fueled his ego into thinking all his opinions are important and correct. His failures are haters or people who “don’t get it.”

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      Well, TIL. For some reason, despite not really knowing anything about him, I had the impression that he’s a reasonable guy.

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        That’s been his whole shtick since the 90s. Ask “common sense” questions, elevate yourself into the Chad Wojack and everyone else is Soyjack, dunk on stupid religious people. Into the 2010s and 2020s, he went full culture war though.

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      I mean he’s said it in the podcast in so many words: “why are the regular people more right than the experts sometimes?” I’m paraphrasing of course, I don’t care to listen to it again but that’s what kickstarted this conversation.

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      The epitome of a lazy, entitled boomer.

      Right, because that kind of intellectual arrogance is definitely a generational trait that us Millennials and Zoomers don’t ever need to worry about.

      So much generational bullshit that people buy into these days. What garbage.

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        Right, because that kind of intellectual arrogance is definitely a generational trait that us Millennials and Zoomers don’t ever need to worry about.

        Your words, not mine,

        So much generational bullshit that people buy into these days. What garbage.

        In your rush to take offense, you missed my point completely. I’ll paraphrase:

        Older people (omitting any triggering mention of boomers) can often struggle to keep their opinions and thinking relevant as they can become less receptive to new information.

        It was true 100 years ago and it’ll be true 100 years from now.

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          Older people (omitting any triggering mention of boomers) can often struggle to keep their opinions and thinking relevant as they can become less receptive to new information.

          It’s got nothing to do with age or receptivity to new information. Vaccines aren’t new. This isn’t an instance of an old person not understanding something that came about “past their time.” Furthermore, there are plenty of younger people who are on the anti-vax bandwagon, so I’m not sure what your obsession with age is.

          I don’t think I’ve misunderstood you at all; I just think your opinion is wrong, bigoted, and ignorant.

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            It’s got nothing to do with age or receptivity to new information

            Disagree.

            Vaccines aren’t new.

            mRNA ones are pretty new.

            This isn’t an instance of an old person not understanding something that came about “past their time.”

            How do you know?

            Furthermore, there are plenty of younger people who are on the anti-vax bandwagon

            Yes, Maher is like this on a whole raft of issues though.

            I just think your opinion is wrong, bigoted, and ignorant.

            OK.

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                See? I can give pithy, easy, completely insubstantial responses that do nothing to further the dialogue and just make it clear I’m unwilling to devote the time to a serious discussion of the issue too. Isn’t this fun?

                Not my intention. Anyway, you’ve contributed precisely nothing to this discussion so it’s probably best if we leave it there.

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                    you’re responding to the wrong person.

                    nobody was being an asshole to anyone. the OP was addressing people aging yet not updating their thinking with new information. then when you made your asshole comment (yes, you were the first asshole), he even clarified without being an asshole back.

                    you’re being the asshole here. good news though, you can just stop