• jontree255@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    People on the left need to stop peddling this “Trump stole the election” stuff. It plays right into his rhetoric about our elections being rigged and allows him to cry again whenever his side loses. The comment in the screenshot looks like a fucking bot anyway.

    Dems didn’t dump Biden early enough and the average American voter is dirt fucking stupid. Plus you’re telling me there’s some sort of massive conspiracy to alter votes in 7 different states with separate election systems and no one blabbed?

    While I agree that every accusation is a confession until we see some hard proof that’s peer reviewed I’m skeptical. We shouldn’t be focusing on the past anyway, it doesn’t solve our current problems. We need to focus on the present and future.

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      4 days ago

      Agreed. Fact is I don’t think they even needed to. The electoral college does most of it for them, and then when over half the nation doesn’t vote, and on top of that many Democrats just didn’t vote, it’s pretty obvious exactly what happened.

      • KombatWombat@lemmy.world
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        4 days ago

        64% of the eligible population voted last presidential election, down from the record 66% in the previous. And Trump won the popular vote. We need reform but turnout is less of a problem than it has been historically.

    • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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      People were unhappy with inflation and stuff and so they vote out the incumbent, it’s as simple as that. 100% the opposite party wins if things are going very badly.

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        4 days ago

        I assumed this is why Musk is tweaking algorithms to show more positivity now that he is president

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          I assumed this is why Musk is tweaking algorithms to show more positivity now that he is president

          What algorithms would he tweak to “show more positivity”? Remember, one of the Dem arguments was basically looking at macroeconomic indicators and claiming things were going well, which was wildly out of line with what people on the ground were actually experiencing.

          By and large, working class folks don’t give a shit about macroeconomic indicators, they care about being able to afford what they need to live their lives and ideally being able to not spend every penny on necessities. “Inflation and stuff” as the user above put it, but as seen at checkout rather than on a spreadsheet.

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      A local special election being won doesn’t mean a whole lot, either. Non-presidential elections and especially ones without Trump on the ballot inspire a very different voting group. This wasn’t a federal election, either.

      So my wager is on some combination of the following:

      1. Really low turnout.
      2. Mentioned working class.
      3. Didn’t mention Trump.
    • ninjabard@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      If he stole the election, and he did, then that needs to be drummed into the heads of the ones who actually voted for him. He doesn’t care about anyone but himself or anything except whatever he defines as winning.

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        4 days ago

        Why would they care even the slightest bit? They’d be proud of it.

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          Rampant election tampering. The closing down of polling centers in neighborhoods that don’t fit his profile. The restrictions on mail-in ballots. Armed gravy seals at polling places for intimidation purposes. Interference and propaganda from Russia. He also explicitly stated he did in his speech.

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            Where’s the evidence?

            He also explicitly stated he did in his speech.

            That’s the way some people are interpreting those words, yes. However, this is not everyone’s interpretation; otherwise, it would be covered by every news source in the nation.

            I also don’t consider Trump a very good source for anything, and that includes information on Trump himself. He lies constantly, he rambles, he says stuff that doesn’t make any sense. He does not seem well. This was true in 2016 and is much more true today.