• GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    You’re attacking a strawman. Nobody is saying the left should “compromise with literal fascists.” What I’m saying is that coalition-building is necessary for power.

    Yes, Democrats have serious problems. Yes, they enable capitalist exploitation and refuse to meaningfully challenge corporate power. Yes, they uphold the prison-industrial complex. But that doesn’t make them the same as fascists. Fascists want outright ethnostates, mass purges, dictatorship, and full corporate-state fusion.

    When liberals are pushed into a binary choice between socialism and fascism, they historically do lean right. But that’s because leftists have failed and continuously fail to make socialism a viable option for them. Instead of winning them over, ultra-leftists alienate them with purity tests and outright hostility. And then, when the left remains weak and ineffective, they blame liberals for siding with the right. It’s self-sabotage.

    So how about not purity-testing everyone and recognize that politics is about coalitions, not ideological perfection?

    • Unruffled [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 hours ago

      Maybe stop asking leftists to swing to the right (which is what you mean by compromise, presumably) and make some concessions of your own towards the left for a change, then maybe we can talk about coalition building.

      Step 1: Get rid of the gerontocracy from the Democratic Party and replace them with actual liberal progressives, instead of spending money to run pro-corporate candidates against your own progressives.

      Step 2: Stand for something other than corporate tax breaks and whatever the latest polls say. Make real public health care part of your party platform. Make raising taxes on the wealthy part of your platform. Raise the minimum wage to a living wage. Even better, support UBI. Get rid of laws that are discriminatory against POC, and get rid of for-profit prisons and prisoners-for-rent aka modern slavery. Regulate corporations properly to stop the worst abuses of corporate power and tax avoidance. Get money completely out of politics. Stop supplying weapons to Israel to wage genocide on its neighbours. Just a few obvious ideas to help kick things off.

      Step 3: Even though we know liberals are still true believers in neo-capitalist economics (for some reason), if the Democrats showed any sign of progress on any of the step 2 topics (most of which can be implemented perfectly well under a capitalist economy - just look at the Nordic States), the left would be a lot more amenable to coalition building, despite the fact we would prefer socialism. But sadly there’s been no progress and we don’t expect any progress while the current crop of boomers are still in charge of the Democratic Party.

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        6 hours ago

        Maybe stop asking leftists to swing to the right (which is what you mean by compromise, presumably) and make some concessions of your own towards the left for a change, then maybe we can talk about coalition building.

        Obama did it and it was fine. You’re a closed-minded leftist. It’s fine. Your type is so prevalent, that’s why we’re never going to gain power.

        Fwiw, I don’t disagree with your positions, but i think the core of leftism should remain working class issues (AOC and Bernie also identify with this stance) and liberals to some extent share that stance.