• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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    One homeless person decides to do drugs in front of the library. I guess we have to remove all the benches and make everything very inconvenient for everyone.

    The one person does a thing so we have to take it away rule doesn’t apply to people with houses.

    “Oh look somebody stabbed somebody to death with a knife. We better take all the knives away from everyone.” This would never happen.

    What if a homemed person did drugs in the library (which probably happened statistically)? Would you close up the library?

    I guess I’m just saying this because you feel like the act was some how moral, I’m telling you it’s not. That’s okay, real life can be tricky, but don’t kid yourself, removing those benches is anti-homeless behavior.

    You don’t have to take the blame personally for it, just own it. But if you don’t admit that you’re part of the problem, then that’s pretty bad.

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      One homeless person decides to do drugs in front of the library. I guess we have to remove all the benches and make everything very inconvenient for everyone.

      That is not even close to what happened. Why are you just making shit up? Also, see my replies to others about how the library you hate is doing much more than you personally could ever possibly do to help the homeless.

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        What do you mean, “See my replies”? Do you think people get paid to post on here? If you had something you wanted to add, add it to your initial comment. I don’t have all day.

        Sorry my dude, doing a bunch of other stuff for homeless, doesn’t absolve you of anything. You do good stuff for homeless, great! Plus 20 points to Gryffindor. You take away benches, not great. - one point to Gryffindor.

        I’m sorry my dude you got to deal with the negative one and why you got it.

        Again, this doesn’t make you a bad person to remove benches, what makes you a bad person is doing s*** like pretending you’re not part of the problem. It’s fine. I’m part of the problem too. The problem is systemic.

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          I think any fair interpretation of his info is that the homeless are given all sorts of reasonable accommodations even at that library including places to sit and rest, but they still sometimes elected to use an inappropriate space even while being given a choice.

          Like if you built a whole guest house in your yard open to homeless and they leave it empty and break into your living room instead. You wouldn’t be anti homeless because you wanted them in the well equipped shelter with beds and sofas instead of your couch.

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            I think you’ve missed my point. I am not pro let homeless do whatever they want. I never claim to be that.

            I am pro, if you take benches away from everyone because of a homeless person. You should own that.

            It doesn’t make anyone a bad person, because everyone takes away stuff from homeless people. It’s a systemic problem.

            But if you pretend that you had no choice, or that it was the right thing to do, then you’re full of shit.

            It’s like if a politician gets caught insider trading. Yeah, everyone does it. Does that mean it’s a good idea to stand up and say “I had no choice”? No you stand up and say " I did it, everyone does it, it’s not right. It makes us a lot of money. Let’s have a conversation about it."

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          Okay, well since you’re lazy, I’ll help you:

          The library allows homeless people to be inside it from open to close. They give them free internet. They give them free help filling out necessary government forms. They hang around just to chat. They allow homeless people to sleep outside all around the building. They are literally building a shower and a washer/dryer facility in the new auxiliary library free for anyone to use.

          In America, your local public library does more to help homeless people than anything you have probably done yourself, but I guess since they haven’t personally solved the problem, they’re the worst of the oppressors.

          And:

          As I told someone else- homeless people can be in the library from open to close. They can sleep on library property. They have free access to all library services including free internet, help accessing all kinds of government aid, and just having someone to talk to them if they’re lonely. In another branch, the library is putting in a shower and a washer/dryer for anyone to use for free.

          But yes, they took away a few benches because of problem people rather than calling the cops.

          Not that it will help, since I didn’t remove anything. I made it clear from the top that my wife is the one work works at this library. You’re not only too lazy to read other people’s responses, you’re too lazy to read what you’re responding to.

          But please prove me wrong and tell me how you’ve done so much more for the homeless than this and other public libraries. Go for it.

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            I’m surprised that someone who has a wife who’s done so much for homeless doesn’t understand the very basic point I’m trying to make.

            Your wife doesn’t absolve herself of removing benches by doing a million things for the homeless. It doesn’t work that way. It has never worked that way. And it will never work that way.

            Pretending that it does, does not help homelessness. It hurts it big time. It hurts homelessness way more than removing benches. Because you are pretending that you can take anything away from them as long as you make up for it in other ways. By your metric not by theirs.

            Also I never said I did a lot for homeless people. I think I volunteered at a food bank once. But I never took anything away from them. But I am still part of the problem like everyone else is.

            Apparently except for you, You’re a special birthday boy who has a wife that does a lot of stuff for homeless people.

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                I read it all, I only responded to the parts that I felt were worth responding to. The rest was hot garbage from somebody who’s a special birthday boy.

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                  I know you’re lying because I never once talked about myself or how special or great I am. First you lied about the one person doing drugs and now you’re lying about this.

                  For the record: I am not special or great or anything positive. I am one of the worst people on this planet. By far.

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                    14 days ago

                    Here, let me refresh your memory from your original post:

                    “The library here really did have to remove benches outside in a couple of places (in part) because of homeless people.”

                    "Unfortunately, some (far, far from most) of the local homeless around the library were either very publicly using drugs or getting so fucked up on those drugs (or possibly just having a really bad mental illness episode) that they were harassing people and scaring kids. "

                    So there was more than one person doing drugs? What is your point?

                    You know, your wife probably feels bad about removing the benches. She probably doesn’t claim that it had to be done. She probably tried to figure out how to keep the benches.

                    Does she know your posting this shit online?