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“Buy two things instead of one”
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What streaming device is $20? Amazon firestick is close to that but still more and has all the ads and tracking we’re complaining about. Chromecast, a used crappy version, is $50+ after taxes it looks like, then Roku seems to be even more. I mean I get it and we all want to stop ads. I personally have pihole and just blocked the Samsung telemetry stuff but not everyone is that savvy. That’s the point of the first comment of this chain. Most people just want a simple single device to watch what they want without all the ads and tracking. All these companies suck, let’s unite over that!
That said a lil media center PC (maybe Raspberry Pi) or an Apple TV - both more than $20 once properly loaded, even used I imagine - is probably much less enshittified (spy-y & ad-y).
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I pretty much have always had an Xbox connected to every TV I’ve had, but ever since owning a Smart TV, with the streaming apps are all there the moment you turn on the TV, why would I add an extra level of booting up, signing in and starting the app on my Xbox (which will then probably run worse and lower quality than my native TV app)?
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Got it, so I don’t need to buy a seperate streaming device.
I get where you’re coming from with the privacy aspects and whatnot, but I very much doubt that a seperate streaming box will get me a better experience than turning on my TV and having Netflix booted in 3 seconds.
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If it’s about more than privacy. Please enlighten me. My whole point is that no-one wants to go out and buy an extra device to perform the same function as the TV they already have with vague hand wavy warnings. If it’s true peril, you’ll be able to explain why.
To believe you all I would need is like, a YouTube video of someone booting the TV and the device up. Does it need multiple remotes? If so it’s definitely slower. Are we talking Chromecast type dongle? If so, I used one of those on the TV before my Smart TV (purely because there was an app I needed that wasn’t available on Xbox). It was slower, less reliable, worse quality and more of a chore than the Xbox, which in turn is much slower than my current TV.
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But I don’t have a Roku TV… someone in here even suggested a Roku streaming device would be better but that makes zero sense.
Yeah, if there was a reason to buy it.
About the Roku injection of ads and anti-consumerism. Why would buying a streaming device made by another corporation be any better.
I think our wires got crossed, I was asking you for evidence.
I kind of get the gist of what you’re saying. But I just wanted to understand why there’s a “doom and gloom, down with all Smart TVs” attitude, when a lot of the streaming boxes are still made my these mega corps and could potentially have the same issues.
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If anything the power of the external device is much more than the native TV app shoehorned on there, especially an Xbox or even a roku that can do 4k streaming for $50
I don’t understand. I’m telling you the TV is faster and higher quality than the Xbox. I thought we were all shitting on Roku lately, why would I but a Roku device to daisy chain it into my system?
This has not been my experience at all with my Smart TV and Xbox. I routinely use the Xbox for simple things like YouTube because the apps are noticeably slower to respond than the TV.
And I’m saying it’s not but we can agree to disagree, and also just providing examples of devices that aren’t expensive and better than what the TV provides but if you want to use what ships with the TV that’s fine, this conversation isn’t for you to defend your purchase and choices, cheers.
No the conversation was to explain why an external device would be better than a native device. Nobody seems to be able to explain that.
I would honestly be interested in some performance comparisons between say Samsung TV UI and that of various streaming boxes, but all I can find is streaming boxes being compared against one another.
Ah well for me and others in the thread, using the TV app isn’t even an option because of the enshittification of Sony games and all TVs in general which was the overall point of the comment thread…
That’s fair enough. I don’t really know much about the Roku TV enshittification thing other than snippets I’ve read on here.
I’m just trying to understand why an external device would be any better (for those who still have a working TV that is). Most are made by the same type of companies who make the Smart TVs. The Walmart ONN device for example, mentioned elsewhere in the thread as a great alternative, is literally a Roku device. Forgive me for not getting it.