Not sure why this doesn’t exist. I don’t need 12TB of storage. When I had a Google account I never even crossed 15GB. 1TB should be plenty for myself and my family. I want to use NVMe since it is quieter and smaller. 2230 drives would be ideal. But I want 1 boot drive and 2 x storage drives in RAID. I guess I could potentially just have 2xNVMe and have the boot partition in RAID also? Bonus points if I can use it as a wireless router also.

  • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    8 months ago

    For minipcs, have a look at aliexpress. They tend to have the branded options much cheaper than amazon. Trigkey, minisforum, Beelink, etc.

    The OP would be better serve with a second hand mini computer from HP or Dell than that crap. AliExpress brands (including Minisforum) are all fun an games until you run into some UEFI bug that will never get a fix and won’t you boot some system or have some feature, or your board doesn’t have proper ESD protection and randomly fries when a USB device is inserted.

    • adONis@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      8 months ago

      I run a trigkey (AMD 5700u) as my NAS (unraid) and homelab, and a CW p-5 (N305) as my router (opnsense), and have no problems at all. So they for sure boot Linux and FreeBSD, which is 90% the case.

      Unlike some old second hand, new hardware is more powerful and energy efficient.

      • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        8 months ago

        Unlike some old second hand, new hardware is more powerful and energy efficient.

        So… if I compare an N305 with an 8th gen i3 CPU it is about 2$/year in savings when it comes to power. Since a brand new N305-based machine will sell for at least 150$ more than a second hand HP Mini i3-8300T that means you’ve to run your N305 for 75 years to actually reach break even.

        Look, I like the N305 but I would never get a cheap ass board when I can get a reliable machine with an older CPU like that i3 for a lot less money, it just doesn’t make sense. Power consumption is a nice metric to throw around, but once you run the math…

        Besides, just google “minis forums uefi bug” and you’ll see. Those machines are about luck, you may have good results a few times but you’ll eventually get burned by some board with software or design issues.

        CW p-5 (N305) as my router (opnsense)

        Frankly, do you really need opnsense? If you were to remove that and just grab any decent router, even old hardware, like the R7800, and load it with OpenWrt you would be spending a lot less on power. Go ahead, name a opnsense feature that OpenWrt doesn’t have. :)

        • adONis@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          name a feature…

          No need to, they both have their place for sure… I don’t know their features, and I probably don’t even use most of them. but openwrt is solid enough for potato hardware, whereas opnsense is not. Also, my point was to show that both operating systems run on the aliexpress hardware, counteracting your claim that some systems don’t boot.

          • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            8 months ago

            openwrt is solid enough for potato hardware, whereas opnsense is not

            OpenWrt is rock solid for every hardware out there, it has a x86 version as well and there are people running that for more serious stuff.

            both operating systems run on the aliexpress hardware, counteracting your claim that some systems don’t boot.

            Yes, they may run right now in your specific boards but it is a hit or miss. You’ve zero guarantee a future update update to your OS or UEFI won’t break things and that there will be fixes. There are plenty of online reports of people unable to boot on those cheap boards due to due to UEFI shenanigans, even on minisforum machines.

            • adONis@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              I haven’t updated bios on my main pc ever since I built it… so I think the concerns you’re talking about are more hit than miss.

              • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                8 months ago

                That’s because you had the luck of not hitting a BIOS with some bug or limitation. For instance on AMD it is common to see things like:

                To run the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X on an Asus Prime B450M-A II motherboard, you will need to update the BIOS to the latest version available that supports the processor.

                Because while electrically / socket compatible, when the board was originally released the CPU didn’t exist.

                • adONis@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  8 months ago

                  You’re comparing apples to oranges here and this has literally nothing to do with the hardware that was mentioned in this thread. They all have soldered mobile CPUs. The N100, N305, 4700u, etc.

                  • TCB13@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    8 months ago

                    Okay. https://www.reddit.com/r/MiniPCs/comments/129x0mm/minisforum_um_series_fixes_megathread/ / https://archive.is/vwXsX

                    UM773 Noted Issues (unresolved): It has been observed that using multiple USB ports simultaneously or through a hub (consisting of one standard 500ma device and 2-4 ~150ma adapters) on UM773 can cause an overload of power draw. This overload can lead to the m.2 and USB controllers for the wifi/BT chip becoming unresponsive or unrecognizable.

                    I got one 2 weeks ago with pve installed, it was running for about 1 day and started to reboot itself constantly with some hardware error code, tried updating the bios, and changing the ssd with no luck. Contacted the miniforum for a return , but they are not that responding

                    Ey same issue with the 32/1tb UM690. All sorts of stupid errors. Really disappointed with the product.

                    I have a new Minisforum x500 microPC with odd boot issues. (…) A successful cold boot is a 50/50 gamble. (…) Getting a cold boot to work is a black-magic process of quick power cable plug-in and pressing the power button, in combination.

                    And so many others…

        • Nyfure@kbin.social
          1·
          8 months ago

          Please include the actual calculations for energy-prices as many, you may not know, live in different locations and pay different prices compared to you.