• Diplomjodler@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    Oh great. Another gigantic SUV. Surely what the world needs most at this point in time.

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    1 year ago

    This is gonna be stupid heavy. My Toyota Avalon is 3,638lbs and would just get pulverized in anything more than a parking lot fender bender. For reference, the current-generation Escalade can weigh up to 6,217lbs and the Hummer EV, which the Escalade IQ might be based off of, is 9,063lbs (as mentioned in the article). This thing is going to kill people.

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      1 year ago

      9,063lbs

      lol 4 ton? In my country you’d need a commercial truck driving license for that thing

  • weew@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    “I want a Hummer EV, but it just isn’t ostentatious enough.”

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    1 year ago

    A 200kWh battery pack to get 450 miles of quoted range. 2.25mi/kWh. I understand it’s competing for the attention of people who would otherwise buy a gas Escalade, but that’s still a little crazy.

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      1 year ago

      Isn’t it normal to have between 15-20km/KWh, that’s 4-5 times less efficient. Our car obsession is showing how wasteful we are.

      Not to mention that if this tank goes into an accident, the force experienced by the passengers in the other car would be a couple of times higher compared to the force experienced in the passengers of the IQ, practically making this a road kill machine.

      • raptir@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Nah, not at all that high. A typical EV gets around 3-4 mi/kWh, which is about 4-6.5km.

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          For comparison, 1 gallon of gas is 33.7 kwh of energy, so 3m/kwh is 3*33.7 = 101.1 mpge

          So the numbers look low, but they’re certainly not low in comparison.

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            Eh, that’s a bit disingenuous in terms of consumer cost though. Where I live, gas is $3.90 per gallon and electricity is $0.19 per kWh. That puts gas at $0.11 per kWh. That still puts the Escalade IQ at 58mpg, but it’s getting awfully close to some (admittedly much smaller) hybrids. And that’s not to mention that that’s the price for home charging - public charging is closer to $0.40 per kWh. That still puts it around half the cost per mile of a gas Escalade.

            With a starting price of $50k more than the gas model you’re talking 300,000 miles to break even (assuming 100% home charging).

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              My comment wasn’t necessarily addressing cost as opposed to how to calculate efficiency. Cost gets much weirder. Nobody can accurately determine the price that anyone else pays for electricity unlike gas, because solar and time of usage exists not to mention the percentage of time home charging comes into play. Washington Post ran a pretty good article on this recently.

              Either way ignoring cost, the EV will always be more efficient. That doesn’t mean it will always be cheaper.

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                Sure, but if we want the typical consumer to choose an EV over an ICE then it would need to be cheaper.

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                  You’re stating a different point that I’m making. I’m consistently saying “I’m not talking about price”, then you go back to price. The initial OP stated that the car obsession is showing it’s wasteful, because it consumes a ton of resources. Someone corrected the OPs understanding of the average efficiency of electric cars. I provided the EPA agreed-upon conversion of MPG -> MPGe. You then decided that efficiency = cost. It’s not.

                  Yes, for most use-cases an electric car will be cheaper; you can read about that here. There are some use-cases today where it won’t be. But it wasn’t the point of my post. Whether or not it’s always cheaper, using an EV Escalade vs a gas Escalade will always be more efficient.

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    And a 55 inch touch screen. So stupid. Make simple efficient EVs and you’ll sell millions.

  • ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    24 inch wheels? Jesus Christ, get ready to spend half the value of the car on tires every few years.

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      1 year ago

      The car itself is 130k, I doubt these people care or know what the wheels cost, as they have people for that.

  • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    Electric SUVs are no better than gas trucks. The weight and shape of the vehicle require an unsustainable amount of energy. Furthermore, they give rich people the moral validation that keeps them trashing the planet with a good conscience.

  • thelastknowngod@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    SUVs are popular because they have emissions exemptions… Car makers, you don’t have to push this garbage anymore with electrics. Just let it go, man.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Called the Escalade IQ, Cadillac has gone all-out, fitting this one with a monster battery that stores enough energy to propel this behemoth 450 miles (724 km) before it needs plugging in.

    It’s a clean-sheet design that uses GM’s new Ultium battery platform and, in this case, the company’s  architecture shared by the forthcoming Chevrolet Silverado EV, among others.

    There’s a definite family theme shared with the other Cadillac EVs, the $60,000 Lyriq and the $340,000 Celestiq; like those cars the Escalade IQ—which starts around $130,000—uses lights to create a grille-like appearance at the front without the aero drag, and features a blanked-off D pillar.

    Any doubts we’re talking about a very heavy car should be dispelled when you find out the battery pack has a capacity of 200 kWh—the same as the 9,063-lb (4,110 kg) GMC Hummer EV.

    The pack uses a nickel cobalt manganese aluminum chemistry, and like the Hummer EV it has a party trick where it can fast-charge at 800 V despite running at 400 V.

    For a more luxurious approach for fewer passengers, the Escalade IQ can be specced with a second row that features reclining seats and fold-out tray tables.


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