They quite literally don’t exist in the United States. Fox addled brain rot right wing media consumers are told that someone like Obama was a communist… Hell someone as “progressive” as AOC isn’t even radical and yet the right will tell you she’s a female Mao.
We get milquetoast centrists masquerading as being on the left, while the right gets to have their actual racist Nazi leaders… No wonder they question why we aren’t as hyped for Biden as they are for Mango Mussolini…
Because not many Americans want that? I don’t know how many times it has to be demonstrated. You won’t settle for a moderate candidate like Biden who will slowly push the country away from how unbelievably far right it’s gotten. You want to flip the system upside down and that’s not viable right now. Move the needle slowly but surely, or try to change everything and continue to fail.
Not many Americans want that because we’ve had decades of propaganda telling us how radical the left is already and scaring everyone to move to the right. That’s why the right has gone so far right and we get pulled to the middle more and more so we can calm the scared people of spooky spooky socialist policies… If we continue we’re literally never going to have actual leftists in government. As it is the entire world sees our political system as 2 conservative parties fighting for control.
And I totally agree with you but I don’t think the Democrat Party is all conservatives. Some are, for sure. But not all of them are Brandon Presley and Joe Manchin. It’s a liberal party, which aligns with the conservatives on several things but vastly differs on much more.
Liberalism in America has been hijacked by white collar criminals ever since Reagan fucked the country up. I agree that we need more socialism in America, but I don’t see how we’re gonna leap directly to it. What we can do is form a coalition to continue defeating the conservatives so we at least aren’t on track for extinction because of climate change. And before you say “Biden’s America is producing more domestic oil than any administration before” I would remind that if he didn’t, he would absolutely lose the upcoming election. When half the country is as conservative as it is, we’re not gonna see the change we want by electing a President who will have limited support in Congress. Getting people like Biden who at least pull the needle closer towards the middle is how it happens.
And then, maybe after a decade or so more Americans will realize they’ve been lied to by Gingrich, Trump, Rove, Bush, McConnell, and all the others who have set this country so far back.
Just my opinion. I don’t know if America can get to where you want it to be in our lifetime after 4 more years of Trump.
I pretty much agree with all of that minus the optimism lol
If Republicans haven’t learned over the past 30+ years that they’ve been lied to again and again I don’t see it happening any time soon as we have propaganda outlets designed to “keep the voters in line.” They’re really our biggest problem, everything we can’t solve is because propagandists pit us against each other and mislead everyone.
My optimism comes from the fact that old people don’t live forever, and they’re reeeally against traditional medicine all of a sudden so I don’t see the boomers propping up right wing psychos forever
That’s the issue that gets skirted around too much, although I disagree that Biden pushes it significantly less rightward. The US doesn’t want good governance. The majority actually wants the fascism, it’s just split on the finer details of what kind of fascism and at what pace.
So for a USian who doesn’t want fascism or any close cousin of it, if you are only going to engage in the most basic level of civil duty (voting), you’re left with justifying a vote for the lesser of two evils, or else simply disengaging.
Reasonable candidates lie outside of the Overton Window. They may facilitate opinion change for the future, but right now they aren’t viable for actually being elected (whether or not one considers that the long-term priority).
Biden isn’t pushing the country away from being far-right, he just isn’t nose-diving into it. The US needs radical change. Everything you’ve said is just buzzword nonsense.
I don’t give a fuck about the average crayon eating over-medicated american retard. Half the country thinks climate change is a joke and Raptor Jesus will save us.
Alright well unfortunately those people vote, so we can say we don’t care, but we can’t say that reality doesn’t affect the current situation we’re in politically. You can absolutely change their minds. So why not start with people like Andy Beshear who has already started doing this instead of someone who is too extreme for them and will only alienate more people?
It’s not my fault both Biden and Trump suck. You know what will excite the far left? How about a far left candidate?
They quite literally don’t exist in the United States. Fox addled brain rot right wing media consumers are told that someone like Obama was a communist… Hell someone as “progressive” as AOC isn’t even radical and yet the right will tell you she’s a female Mao.
We get milquetoast centrists masquerading as being on the left, while the right gets to have their actual racist Nazi leaders… No wonder they question why we aren’t as hyped for Biden as they are for Mango Mussolini…
Because not many Americans want that? I don’t know how many times it has to be demonstrated. You won’t settle for a moderate candidate like Biden who will slowly push the country away from how unbelievably far right it’s gotten. You want to flip the system upside down and that’s not viable right now. Move the needle slowly but surely, or try to change everything and continue to fail.
Not many Americans want that because we’ve had decades of propaganda telling us how radical the left is already and scaring everyone to move to the right. That’s why the right has gone so far right and we get pulled to the middle more and more so we can calm the scared people of spooky spooky socialist policies… If we continue we’re literally never going to have actual leftists in government. As it is the entire world sees our political system as 2 conservative parties fighting for control.
And I totally agree with you but I don’t think the Democrat Party is all conservatives. Some are, for sure. But not all of them are Brandon Presley and Joe Manchin. It’s a liberal party, which aligns with the conservatives on several things but vastly differs on much more.
Liberalism in America has been hijacked by white collar criminals ever since Reagan fucked the country up. I agree that we need more socialism in America, but I don’t see how we’re gonna leap directly to it. What we can do is form a coalition to continue defeating the conservatives so we at least aren’t on track for extinction because of climate change. And before you say “Biden’s America is producing more domestic oil than any administration before” I would remind that if he didn’t, he would absolutely lose the upcoming election. When half the country is as conservative as it is, we’re not gonna see the change we want by electing a President who will have limited support in Congress. Getting people like Biden who at least pull the needle closer towards the middle is how it happens.
And then, maybe after a decade or so more Americans will realize they’ve been lied to by Gingrich, Trump, Rove, Bush, McConnell, and all the others who have set this country so far back.
Just my opinion. I don’t know if America can get to where you want it to be in our lifetime after 4 more years of Trump.
I pretty much agree with all of that minus the optimism lol
If Republicans haven’t learned over the past 30+ years that they’ve been lied to again and again I don’t see it happening any time soon as we have propaganda outlets designed to “keep the voters in line.” They’re really our biggest problem, everything we can’t solve is because propagandists pit us against each other and mislead everyone.
My optimism comes from the fact that old people don’t live forever, and they’re reeeally against traditional medicine all of a sudden so I don’t see the boomers propping up right wing psychos forever
That’s the issue that gets skirted around too much, although I disagree that Biden pushes it significantly less rightward. The US doesn’t want good governance. The majority actually wants the fascism, it’s just split on the finer details of what kind of fascism and at what pace.
So for a USian who doesn’t want fascism or any close cousin of it, if you are only going to engage in the most basic level of civil duty (voting), you’re left with justifying a vote for the lesser of two evils, or else simply disengaging.
Reasonable candidates lie outside of the Overton Window. They may facilitate opinion change for the future, but right now they aren’t viable for actually being elected (whether or not one considers that the long-term priority).
Biden isn’t pushing the country away from being far-right, he just isn’t nose-diving into it. The US needs radical change. Everything you’ve said is just buzzword nonsense.
I don’t give a fuck about the average crayon eating over-medicated american retard. Half the country thinks climate change is a joke and Raptor Jesus will save us.
Who, Gives, A, Fuck?
Alright well unfortunately those people vote, so we can say we don’t care, but we can’t say that reality doesn’t affect the current situation we’re in politically. You can absolutely change their minds. So why not start with people like Andy Beshear who has already started doing this instead of someone who is too extreme for them and will only alienate more people?