• ExFed@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      I agree, it ought to be a hard line.

      Question is, though, where’s the line? We don’t all come with the same exact moral compass, and we’re all perfectly capable of rationalizing evil, so you can’t just say “be a moral and non-bigoted person” and expect the desired outcome. Plenty of slave owners worldwide were convinced that slavery was not just morally admissible but even admirable.

      No matter where that line is, it needs to be well-defined and agreed-upon, or else it’s arbitrary, and thus open to abuse and corruption by demagogues.

      • ponfriend@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        I think we can agree that those slave owners were wrong, just as we can agree that Eich was and remains wrong about gay marriage.

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      I don’t like that he supported a campaign against gay marriage. I don’t know his reasons for doing so but it’s probably not one I’d support.

      But my understanding extends no further. I know he made a donation. I don’t have the nuance or understanding to extrapolate that into putting him into an entire box

      There’s something ironic about tarring him with a broad brush based on one attribute

      • Misconduct@startrek.website
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        1 year ago

        The dude spent $1,000 declaring where he stood on taking someone’s rights away and you’re like meh I don’t wanna jump to judgement here lmao

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          I’ll absolutely disagree with his action in contributing to taking away same sex marriage. I don’t see why gay people shouldn’t get married.

          I don’t know his reason for contributing to it. I’ll very likely disagree with his reason.

          What I’m saying is, does that make him alt-right (whatever that even means)? The only thing you can deduce is that he thinks gay people shouldn’t get married

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          1 year ago

          hey guys stop being judgemental of bigots

          Isn’t what I said

          All I’ve said is you can’t extrapolate “He disagrees with X there for he must also be Y and Z”