• ZodiacSF1969@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This comment will not go down well here, this site leans left pretty heavily and it’s easy to upset them lol

    • very smart Idiot@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      While this is true, most left leaning people still know how economy works and why it should keep on working.

      Germany is considered heavily left leaning nowadays. Especially in comparison to countries like the US. But that doesn’t mean that Germans are suddenly borderline communist.

      • lemmy@lemmy.ml
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        1 year ago

        lol, who in their right mind considers germany as left leaning?

          • NeoMoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            1 year ago

            Probably, but considering Germany as a left-leaning country is still rich.

            It sounds more like your perception of Germany is a little displaced from reality.

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              1 year ago

              It for sure is not. Germany is a social democracy. One of the most advanced in Europe.

              Therefore Germany is heavily left leaning.

              I don’t know what you would call the left at this point… Communism?

              • NeoMoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                1 year ago

                But the population and therefore our government which get voted from them is more conservative. And that’s not even calculating the swing to the right. And the established far right networks our executive like police, military and intelligent services doesn’t give a picture of a left leaning country. Germany had a good foundation, I give you that, but we have now decades of conservative governments who slowly undermined it.

                So maybe left leaning if you compare it to an absolute monarchy, but if you differentiate and look closer, Germany is far from an left leaning country.

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                  1 year ago

                  But the population and therefore our government which get voted from them is more conservative. And that’s not even calculating the swing to the right.

                  Not quite sure, are we talking about Germany now? Because SPD and Grüne is definitely not konservative. And the AfD, considering the sei g to the right, is actually more left leaning than the CDU and FDP considering the economical standpoints.

                  And the established far right networks our executive like police, military and intelligent services doesn’t give a picture of a left leaning country.

                  If we are still talking about Germany, Germany has reduced the Police and the Military over the last decades further and further. We currently have real issues now. No wonder that overworking policemen are leaning further to the right, to parties that would eventually enlarge the policeforce.

                  Germany had a good foundation, I give you that, but we have now decades of conservative governments who slowly undermined it.

                  We should not forget that the SPD and CDU were once both considered the conservative parties. And most of the foundations you mention were build under their lead. It’s been a recent development that CDU and SPD became rather left leaning in their appearance, but simultaneously messing up the systems.

                  So maybe left leaning if you compare it to an absolute monarchy, but if you differentiate and look closer, Germany is far from an left leaning country.

                  And here we drastically disagree. Germany is a heavily left leaning European country. And by European standard this also means globally.

              • NeoMoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                1 year ago

                In the name sure. In the party even are some left leaning politicians. But the body of it and our Bundeskanzler, are more centrist than left. The upholding of the status quo is more important for them than improving social situations and tackling leftist points like wealth inequality, so I personally wouldn’t call them left leaning

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                  1 year ago

                  Wealth equality isn’t such a leftist point. I mean, leftists think it is but every decent liberal will be against for the fact that most of the wealth belongs to 1% of the people. It means the free market isn’t really working.

                  • NeoMoss@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    1 year ago

                    It was just an example, I wasn’t claiming that it is an exclusive talking point for the left. But then you still would probably agree that an party which ignores such problems isn’t really leftist, nor liberal.