• vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    That’s not the end game. Conservatives will never be satisfied with progressives existing in their country, even if in a different state.

    No, the goal secession. Or worse.

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      Yeah I’m not convinced at all that they’re ok with us existing in other states. They want us completely and utterly nullified as having any political say in this country. They want us off school boards, out of Congress, out of the White House, off the city council, not moving to their towns, not vacationing in their regions, not watching their sports teams. They want us silent, imprisoned, deported, or dead.

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        1 year ago

        Nice to see someone who understands who we’re dealing with. Too bad our President has no idea.

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          I work in government. Biden has an excellent idea of what he’s up against. And he saw how Obama and Clinton talked a good game but got out maneuvered by the right. He’s an incredibly effective president, vastly better than I thought he’d be. He’s managed to get so much done even with the right going full fascist against him, and he’s done it without complaint or drama.

          I am honestly baffled when I hear liberals complain about him. He’s gotten more progressive goals across the finish line than any president since FDR, and he’s not even 3 years in. Is he 100% perfect? No. But he’s very very good. I’ll take very very good over outright fascism any day of the week.

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            And – just to add to your excellent summary here – even though the Trump administration did everything it could think of to hobble him, including refusal of the usual changeover processes, destruction or withholding of materials, refusal of access, etc, because of his decades in government and already knowing where everything is and how to get shit done, Biden was able to hit the ground running on the very first day.

            Agree with his decisions and politics or not, he has been a superlative administrator in getting a very broken government to stumble its way back onto a working path, even as he has been deliberately hobbled by an entire party that has zero interest in governing themselves, or seeing anyone else make US government work for anyone but despots and donors. Getting big government to move its fat lazy ass in any direction, much less a productive one, isn’t nothing; in a bureaucracy, that’s everything.