Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”

“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.

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    That’s fascinating, but I’ve already disproven that claim. So you can keep saying it all you want but it doesn’t make it true.

    I’m not hiding behind any lies, stop trying to play the uno reverse card and come up with a legitimate true statement.

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      11 months ago

      That’s fascinating, but I’ve already disproven that claim.

      Demonstrating your abject ignorance on the subject matter does not equate to you “disproving” anything, Clyde.

      come up with a legitimate true statement.

      Your wish is my command. Here goes…

      A white supremacist settler-colonialist state is still a white supremacist settler-colonialist state regardless of how much white supremacist propaganda you peddle in a vain attempt to prove otherwise.

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        No I said “legitimate true statement.”

        Not racist lies that you’ve tried to spread from the beginning.

        You can’t be a colonizer of your own land, and stop with your racist white washing of an entire people.

        Like if native Americans were supported by the US government to take back land you’d be over here calling them white supremacist colonizers. Because that’s the same fucking thing.

        Both groups are people of color, both groups were forced out of their native lands, it’s not like either group just said “oh yeah, totally come massacre us and take our land”

        No, they were colonized, forcibly removed. To take your property back does not magically turn you white or into a colonizer. Holy fuck you’re dense.

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          You can’t be a colonizer of your own land,

          True… European Jewish people can’t be colonizers in Europe.

          Because that’s the same fucking thing.

          No, no, no… if you wish to compare a white supremacist settler-colonialist state to something, you need to compare it with another white supremacist settler-colonialist state - you know, such as the US, for instance.

          both groups were forced out of their native lands,

          Yes, European Jewish people were forced out of their native lands - by Europeans.

          No I said “legitimate true statement.”

          Oh, oh… right. Let me check… here’s one!

          A white supremacist settler-colonialist state is still a white supremacist settler-colonialist state regardless of how much white supremacist propaganda you peddle in a vain attempt to prove otherwise.

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            So, you’re back to ignoring history. Gotcha, right. So you know where they came from before they were forced to live in Europe right? … Like, you understand they didn’t start there right? Their native land, European Jews, African Jews all Jews, have a native land in Israel. You can test our fucking blood. That’s where we came from before we were forced out.

            So it’s exactly the fucking same. Soooo, try again maybe, but this time try to make a factual statement. Because, I can back my claim with science.

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              Because, I can back my claim with science. You can test our fucking blood. Blah, blah, blah…

              ROFLMAO!

              “Scientific racism” is not a science, Clyde - did you forget that “Jewish” is not a “race?”

              European Jewish people are native to Europe. African Jewish people are native to Africa. To suggest they aren’t is about as antisemitic as antisemitism gets.

              So… again - what does it feel like to play kapo for the very people who invented antisemitism? You know… the very same people whose “race science” you have so obviously bought into?

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                You’re a fucking disgrace of a human being.

                How do you manage to shit on finding the lost tribes of Israel? We can prove that the lemba tribe in Africa came from Israel, they were kicked out by the ancestors of the Palestinians, we can prove the European Jews came from Israel, they were kicked out of Israel by the Romans.

                We found our fucking family, after all the colonizers and genocides and you’re trying to shit on that. You’re objectively an asshole and can fuck yourself.

                This is scientifically proven that we are a family. And you’re trying to take that from us, you’re not the first that has tried, but fuck yourself.

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                  You’re a fucking disgrace of a human being.

                  Again… don’t project your right-wing self-hatred onto me, right-winger. You are the one apologizing for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state - not me.

                  We can prove

                  You can’t prove squat.

                  We found our fucking family,

                  Again… “scientific racism” is not a science, Clyde - did you forget that “Jewish” is not a “race?”

                  And you’re trying to take that from us

                  ROFLMAO!

                  How can I be “taking away” that which your precious little white supremacist settler-colonialist state is actively throwing away?

                  Oh, bother… a white supremacist settler-colonialist state acting like… drumroll, please… a white supremacist settler-colonialist state.

                  Absolutely nobody could have foreseen this, eh Clyde?

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                    Again… don’t project your right-wing self-hatred onto me, right-winger. You are the one apologizing for a white supremacist settler-colonialist state - not me.

                    I’m not the right wing asshole, you are.

                    I’m not apologizing for a white supremacist colonialist state, BECAUSE THAT DOESN’T EXIST YOU FUCKING RAGING RACIST ANTI SEMITIC PIECE OF SHIT ASSHOLE.

                    there, did I say it loud enough for you? You’re the racist here.

                    Again… “scientific racism” is not a science, Clyde - did you forget that “Jewish” is not a “race?”

                    You’re fucking dumb. “Race” is a social concept, “DNA proven relationship” is a science backed fact. So you shit posting racist ass bullshit is irrelevant.

                    Stop being an anti semitic piece of shit, that’s all anyone can ask.

                    Put out your tiki torch proud boy, your time is done.