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      Wtf. Journalism is definitely not dead. We just need to stop linking to corporate news outlets.

      Zateo, democracy now, the intercept, truth out, common dreams, etc. There’s loads of great media outlets out there…

      Maybe we should just ban the corporate ones from this community? Or create a new community that only allows links to nonprofit news outlets?

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        Yeah. When people complain that the media is dead or that the narrative is controlled regardless of sources, they usually talk about the mainstream/corporate media. They don’t go their way to find alternative or “underground” sources shall we say.

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          Yeah I wouldn’t call any of these sites underground. If we dont know about them, blame Lemmy users and mods.

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            I mean, if you ask most people, they wouldn’t know what Democracy Now or Pro Public are unlike MSNBC, CNN or New York Times. These news outlets rarely get more coverage or mentions because it is by intention.

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              Again, if that’s the case then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We’re on a link sharing site ffs. We post the links and we make the rules for which sites are allowed.

              I do my part to report people who just post screenshots of articles and downvoting links to corporate news sites with pro-corporate narratives, but we all must do our part. And the mods need to do their job too.

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                I’m talking about in general. Doesn’t matter if it’s on Lemmy or Reddit, people don’t know about the news outlets you and I mentioned.

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      Law/justice is also dead, especially as folks stop believing in any piece of state evidence.

      Two seconds later it could be you or me who are picked up and demonized for random stuff.

      Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time. So it’s not a question of is it true or not. It’s a question of how they are lying. Like a puzzle to be solved or exposed for the entertainment, but even that eventually grows old. Oh a cop MSM or a politician corpo said it … pfft!

      Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media. Obviously not a healthy situation when everyone is considered an actor.

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        Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time.

        Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media.

        This is not how most people view information from the state or media. There’s a much higher degree of skepticism than in the past, sure, but most people aren’t going to simply believe every cop (or especially every journalist) is lying 100% of the time.

        I don’t think it does the left any favors to take this stance, either. It makes us look contrarian (because it is contrarian) rather than grounded in reality.

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          At this point, why care about reality? Just conjure an illusion for a few days. Rinse wash and repeat. The same goes for witnesses and evidence presented by the state in court.

          Completely unbelievable.

          Was there any accomplished FOSS dev present? No? Well no one of credibility to be a witness or present evidence. Everyone possibly there are the equivalent of children.

          I believe exactly what i wrote.

          The above is my mind virus gift to world+dog