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  • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    I mean, 100% the drivers should be being paid more and the entire system is fundamentally broken.

    In the here and now though, where I can’t do anything to fix anything even if I entirely stop using Amazon forever right this moment, giving someone a random $5 that they wouldn’t otherwise have is a good thing.

    • Zirconium@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Yea if you’re going to use a bad service might as well help while you can. It’s like going to a restaurant then not tipping because it encourages owners. They don’t give a fuck cause they still get your money

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      10 days ago

      Then give the tip in person. Don’t let amazon know they can count on their customers to carry the burden of paying their employees

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        10 days ago

        Oh God no, then it’s actually me paying the money, which makes it an actual tip.
        If Amazon asks if they should pay someone more, the answer is always yes.

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          10 days ago

          That’s fair too. I’ll be honest I’m always going to be pessimistic as hell when it comes to anything amazon says and does. If it’s their money, make them pay up

      • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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        10 days ago

        slippery slope fallacy

        Clicking a button that gives someone money at no expense to you isn’t causing the issue you’re worried about, it’s at worst symptomatic of the broken system that might lead to your concern.

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          10 days ago

          Not all slippery slopes are fallacies.

          Ever notice that all the counter service places are leaning into tipping because it became popular with coffee shops?

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            10 days ago

            Sure. And if Amazon ever asks us to tip delivery people with our own money we shouldn’t because that’s bullshit.

            That being bullshit has no bearing on if it’s good to click the button that gives someone $5 at no expense to you out of their employers pocket.

            If a counter service place has a button I could press to give them $5 of the stores money, I would press it every time. That’s not a tip because it’s not my money supplementing the employees wages.

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      7 days ago

      Technically youre right, but would you say the same if Putin started handing out band-aids to ukrainians who just lost their families?

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        7 days ago

        … What? That’s such a non-sequitor that I’m honestly not sure if you replied to the wrong thing or something.

        I can’t say that I would say the same thing in an entirely different situation with nothing to do with the other.

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          7 days ago

          Its a similar situation. You ‘cant do anything about anything’ and handing out band-aids is ‘better than nothing’. Would ‘giving someone a band-aid is a good thing’ be your stance in that situation or would you find it rather inappropriate?

          • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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            7 days ago

            They’re not similar situations at all. For one, it’s an absurd difference in scale. Whatever your opinions of Amazon delivery driver working conditions and pay, it’s in no way comparable to “an invading army murdered their family”.

            Second, whether or not I should push a button to give someone $5 with no obligation on their part is a different situation from getting a bandaid for a murdered family on the whim of the responsible party.

            If you could push a button and a random person somewhere in the world gets $1 million, would you push the button?