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    Google SEO has homogenized the internet with vapid marketing content. The internet is one big commercial. The reason Reddit got popular was because communities found and shared good content and created more by talking about it. Now ads are disguised as posts and memes.

    The internet is getting as bad as radio.

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      The internet is getting as bad as radio.

      Lemmy kinda feels like the 2000’s internet and I love it

      edit: formatting

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            Let’s not romanticize the old web too much. It had its problems too:

            • Half-done html pages with under_construction.gif or cliparts copypasted from Word. Some went through multiple editors like Frontpage and Dreamweaver which ended up producing spaghetti HTML.

            • Autoplaying midi from songs probably from Limp Bizkit, Metallica, Blink 182, etc. Did I mention that MIDI volumes count as separate from normal ‘Media’ volumes, and were often cranked to the MAX?

            • It was a time when HTML/CSS/JS would chaotically intertwine with proprietary plugins like Flash and ActiveX. “Best viewed from Internet Explorer at 800x600” was a thing. Readability? Accessibility? Forget about it.

            • You paid by minute on dial-up connection until ADSL appeared. Good luck trying to download that tenchi_muyo_hentai.jpg.

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              That was more the 90s - the time of things like Geocities - than the 2000s.

              By the 2000s there had already been one Internet Boom & Bust and things on the Internet were way more comercialized than is earlier times of handmade sites, pre-CSS webpages and ActiveX components.

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        Yeah. I’m noticing when things get too big, undesirables start creeping in.

        ‘Undesirable’ in this sense would be people with more money than sense and incredibly low standards for what they spend it on. They are the kinds that are proud to be ripped off and businesses will cater to them over smarter folk.

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        Yup and hopefully only the beginning. The fediverse is like a better internet without big tech.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
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    The only REAL replacement I’m still looking for is YouTube. Sure, Peertube and proxy sites for YouTube exist. But the amount of content I am interested in is by dozens of decimals larger an YouTube than on any other alternative combined.

    And, yes, of course, the search engine.

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      Odysee seems to be doing relatively well. Probably 20-30% of the YouTubers I watch are also on there.

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        I tried DDG many times for work. Often I don’t find the result I want at all. I try different queries and all, but I only find barely relevant shit. I switch to Google, and immediately the top result is exactly what I want.

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      I’m hoping that as the fediverse grows it will start to accrue enough capacity to sustain a strong video hosting platform like peertube.

      Social media has a network effect where the more people use it the more attractive it gets, and because the fediverse can interconnect between different formats I see it as inevitable that eventually it will take over, because it can manage a much more comprehensive network than any centralised site.

      Once it becomes more mainstream, server capacity should increase until it can handle the world’s video sharing as well.

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      StartPage is a good engine if you want cleaned up Google results. But I highly recommend subscribing to Kagi.

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      I hope alternatives to youtube like Nebula and peertube find their footing, but I can’t help but suspect that youtube has and will continue to find the successful path in this social media era. I’m not a youtuber or anything, so I don’t really know any details about how it works, but the way they seem provide a platform with monetisation and brand building possibilities built in seems pretty effective/pragmatic for a platform that needs to find someway to work within capitalism.

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      Duck Duck Go has been nothing but great since I switched a few months ago. It’s like Google from 10 years ago.

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    In fact, the site’s original name, BackRub, was a reference to the backlinks it was using to rank results.

    Oh, I’m so gonna be using the original name from this moment on. “Have you backrubbed it?”

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    I’ve been looking for a replacement for Google Keep for so long and can not seem to find one.

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    The only thing I still use from Google is their Pixel phones, and then I immediately flash them with GrapheneOS. That, and Google maps which I can’t find a good replacement. I’ve tried every single OSM app and none of them remotely compare.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A writer for the site, interviewed under the pseudonym Michael Hugedisk, told Wired in 2007 that their three-person team linked to a webpage selling pro-George W. Bush merchandise and was able to make it the top result on Google if you searched “dumb motherfucker.”

    Per Sullivan’s logic, Google Groups added better discovery to both Usenet and the myriad other message boards and online communities creating proto-meme culture at the time.

    Alex Turvy, a sociologist specializing in digital culture, said it’s hard to map our current understanding of virality and platform optimization to the earliest days of Google, but there are definitely similarities.

    Alice Marwick, a communications professor and author of The Private Is Political: Networked Privacy and Social Media, told The Verge that it wasn’t until Myspace launched in 2003 that we started to even develop the idea of internet fame.

    In 2004, he won a competition Google held to google-bomb itself with the made-up term “nigritude ultramarine.” Since then, Dash has written extensively over the years on the impact platform optimization has had on the way the internet works.

    On top of it all, OpenAI’s massively successful ChatGPT has dragged Google into a race against Microsoft to build a completely different kind of search, one that uses a chatbot interface supported by generative AI.


    The original article contains 3,695 words, the summary contains 215 words. Saved 94%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    translation: Google Search is still an important tool, but it is no longer the only way people find information.

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    I hope it’s true, but honestly I don’t believe sites and opinions that have to do with google from sites like the verge.
    Because sites like the verge are in reality rivals to google. For example verge is owned by voxmedia which has an advertising company and a web advertsing platform. They are rivals to google which also is an advertising company. They hate google because they want google’s money lol. I seriously doubt they can be objective especially to google.

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    there’s been a shift to entertainment-based video feeds like TikTok — which is now being used as a primary search engine by a new generation of internet users. 

    I hate when journalists use data from Arse Research Institute to boost sensation

    But if that last 25 years of Google’s history could be boiled down to a battle against the Google bomb, it is now starting to feel that the search engine is finally losing pace with the hijackers. Or as Marwick put it, “Google has gotten shittier and shittier.”

    “To me, it just continues the transformation of the internet into this shitty mall,” Marwick said. “A dead mall that’s just filled with the shady sort of stores you don’t want to go to.”

    Worth citing

    Dash is one of the web’s earliest bloggers. In 2004, he won a competition Google held to google-bomb itself with the made-up term “nigritude ultramarine.”

    DarkBlue.com is not Google
    https://web.archive.org/web/20071011225539/http://dashes.com/anil/2004/06/nigritude-ultra.html

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      I always wondered if "using X app instead of Google as search engine should be interpreted as sign of generalized computer illiteracy (not being able to distinguish between two different contexts/products) or a product of our own doing (convergence between desktop and mobile, interfaces harder to visually differenciate between apps and its functions).

      Either way we have a long way ahead.