Transcription: An image of a man slightly hunched over, with one hand pressed on his lower back. The text says “I’M HERE, I’M QUEER, AND MY JOINT PAIN IS MODERATE TO SEVERE”

    • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      That’s actually a terrible idea, as it doesn’t treat the underlying cause. There’s a reason it’s not the first line treatment for pain.

      Edit: yes I get the double entrendre pun.

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        Joke went so far over your head you didn’t have a chance at catching it

      • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf
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        Other pain management doesn’t treat the underlying cause either and the reason for cannabis to not be the first line treatment is much more often legal/political than medical.

        It’s been proven in clinical trials to be one of the most effective types of pain management and much less addictive and otherwise harmful than opiates, but that doesn’t seem to do anything about the preconceived notions of regressive people including most politicians.

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          Doctor here, that’s false. Glaucoma isn’t just about managing pain but reducing the intraocular pressure that is causing the pain; treating pain alone will lead to vision damage and eventual blindness. That’s why doctors still advise eye drops for treatment over marijuana even in countries where marijuana is legal.

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            I wasn’t talking about glaucoma, though, that’s another comment thread on this post.

            I was talking about cannabis for pain relief in particular as well as the benefits of pain management in general…

      • MrMamiya@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Tell me you’ve either never smoked or recently quit without telling me.

        • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafe
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          Pain is a signal that something is wrong with your body, so you should be ideally figuring out why something is wrong instead of ignoring it if it’s consistent.

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            And while you’re figuring it out, involuntarily tensing up and favoring other limbs because of pain can exacerbate the problem or cause new ones.

            Just because the ideal is solving the underlying issues doesn’t mean that pain management while you do that isn’t beneficial to prevent not just discomfort but also further damage.

          • over_clox@lemmy.world
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            Meanwhile I’ve got two friends with glaucoma, where weed is one of the best solutions to delay it.

            Throw me another downvote will ya?

            • SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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              Any eye doctor will tell you that eye drops are superior than marijuana for treating glaucoma. Marijuana is a painkiller but doesn’t help as well with the elevated intraocular pressure that damages your vision. Anyone who wants to pretend that marijuana is one of the best solutions is lying. Recreational marijuana is already legal in many places, you don’t have to pretend to care about medical excuses anymore.

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                Yeah, guess what? I literally know two people with glaucoma. It’s not a painkiller at all, it just helps delay the effects.

                They literally tell me there’s no pain either way, they’re just trying to preserve their eyesight as long as they can.

    • Notyou@sopuli.xyz
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      They are like a bunch of small joints stacked on top of each other. Then we you get old you get degenerative disc disease and those joints have a hard time moving.

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      I’m sorry, but this just isn’t good advice especially if this post is referring to arthritis, ME/CFS or other autoimmune conditions which is where most moderate to severe joint pain stems from. Arthritis is a debilitating autoimmune condition that requires consistent medical treatment to address the underlying autoimmune issues that causes it. Alongside that, moving and forcing yourself to be active with persistent joint pain will only worsen the overall damage and inflammation that autoimmune conditions cause towards joints.

      • lobelia581@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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        1 year ago

        this is good information. fortunately i do not have arthritis, which means unfortunately i should actually just move around more

        • Komle@lemm.ee
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          While I’m completely for more people adopting a plant based diet, claiming it will help actual medical issues without any scientific basis to do so is just wrong. The article you yourself linked consistently argues that there isn’t enough evidence to suggest a change in diet for people with arthritis. At best it “might play a role”, that’s hardly the same as “can and does help”.

      • MrMamiya@feddit.de
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        1 year ago

        Sorry your specific life situation wasn’t covered by my generalization.

        • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafe
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          It’s not my specific life situation, but to make such a generalization isn’t helpful either. It’s dismissive and rude to people with disabilities and pain related conditions. It’s like telling a depressed person to just try being happy instead of sad. I’m not trying to be rude, I’m just saying that it’s a thing a lot of people with disabilities and pain based conditions hear and it only serves to rub salt in the wound of dealing with their issues and to please be mindful of that moving forward. (I’m sorry if I seemed hostile, that was not my intention. I was trying to inform.)

          • MrMamiya@feddit.de
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            Hey man, you’re taking me too seriously.

            I have diabetes. I have chronic pain. I have major depressive disorder. I have anxiety. I have had a collapsed lung. I have an inherited disease that ossifies ear bones and have two synthetic stapes. I was on Medicaid for 3 years.

            Don’t tell me about struggle. I’m sorry imaginary people are suffering from my lack of encyclopedic exceptions to my advice. I’m sure they’ll be okay.

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              My apologies, I deal with chronic pain as well and disability as well. I guess my shitty interactions on reddit because of it has me assuming the absolute worst from people out the gate.

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                Thanks man, I appreciate this a lot. I’m. Not trying to have an adversarial time here either. I know what you mean about the Reddit thing.

                I’m sorry you’ve had a hard time too. We’re gonna be okay though. I wish you the best in your fight.

                • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafe
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                  You too, I appreciate it.

                  Also, this is the third time this month I’ve had this kind of interaction on Lemmy where a misunderstanding has been resolved amicably without conflict instead it turning into a bigger argument and never once did I have such an interaction on Reddit. I hope that this chill nature sticks around here.

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          You made a sweeping generalization with no information. That would be fine if you weren’t now being snarky about it.

          • MrMamiya@feddit.de
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            You wanna talk about it?

            Edit: the people that like me, do so despite my flaws. I like to make light of stuff, kind of like this meme I replied to on a meme sub. Did I get a little salty, sure. If I wanted a high bar for posting I would go to a science or history sub, or a sub about back pain. This is not that.

            I’ve got a pretty good background of suffering, I’m sorry for whatever you’re going through that made you upset by my simple advice. If you need someone to talk to, I’m flaky but will respond.