• Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 hours ago

    It is kinda weird to make that joke with that. I mean that crash was probably accidental.

    Edit: based on the reactions, it seems like people don’t understand what I am trying to say.

    The joke works on 4 ways/steps and 1 seems poorly thought out.

    1. It is a comparison. Which functions as a reference, affectively an “Insider” joke, basically how all memes work.
    2. Inversion. Basically just a stylistic choice to pull attention towards the next point.
    3. It is what it looks like. It tries to communicate that what looks like an accident is an accident. And as it is an inversion, a Hilter salute is a Hilter salute.

    And the last one is odd to me and I tried to point that out. And funnily the responses to my comment just do that…

    1. Misidentification. That is an odd choice, given that is the Argumentation on people who believe that Elon musk didn’t do a Nazi salute. So 3. And 4. Are in conflict because of 2.
    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 hours ago

      The jokeis that the car factually crashes D. Elon Musk factually did a Nazi salute. So someone wrote a comment distorting what factually happened with the car like people do for Elons frantic hand gestures.

    • spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      5 hours ago

      A joke doesn’t need to work on all 4 levels. Upon seeing this, I immediately caught the joke was an inversion, not a 1:1 comparison.

      • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 hours ago

        That is my point. It doesn’t work on all 4 levels. And I never said it has to. I am saying it doesn’t because of the decisions made. My issue isn’t that it isn’t a 1:1 comparison, it is the misidentification, given that it is the counterargument of what they try to make fun off. In a way, it agrees with those that it tries to make fun off.

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          5 hours ago

          So is your argument is that satire isn’t a thing? Because this is rather clearly a satirical meme, and that kind of ridicule by inversion is pretty solidly a feature of satirical works.

          Irl it was an obviously intentional act that was claimed to be an accident, and this is an accident that is mockingly taking something that’s clearly an accident and describing it like it was intentional but trying to claim it was an accident, to make fun of how utterly unbelievable the original claim is by contrasting it with the same argumentation of something that is very unlikely to be intentional.

          I think your mistake is thinking this is a counter argument rather than just mocking their idiocy with some really dry satire.

          • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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            5 hours ago

            The joke is satire and the comments to me were satire but the issue is that the satire doesn’t quite work when at the core of the issue is that both sides claim “misidentification” on the other side. Someone who believes that Elon didn’t do a salute, could make the same joke about you. That is why you see people posting pictures of e.g. AOC waving. They mock the “misidentification” of the salute.

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              5 hours ago

              They’re not mocking the misidentification of the salute, they’re trying to muddy the waters to dilute the accusations, like they have every single time something wants to stick. This is their standard playbook, as is the tone policing that comes with it.

              • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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                4 hours ago

                Yes they are. By claiming “misidentification”… Not exclusively as it also works on people who believe that the Nazi were left wing Communist, because they might actually believe that AOC did the salute. But the primary function is to muddy the water by mocking the identification as a misidentification.

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      8 hours ago

      Why are you calling it a crash? The truck just has autism. Besides, here are a bunch of photos of other trucks crashing. photos of parked trucks

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      8 hours ago

      But it’s not a crash. If it were a crash the driver would clearly say “oops, I certainly didn’t mean to crash”. That’s clearly the truck showing love to the barrier. The driver said so.

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      6 hours ago

      I think I might understand what you mean. The joke insinuates that what happened with Elon on stage was an accident and not a deliberate nazi salute.

      The opposite is probably true with the car. The driver probably did not intend to crash their car.

      I think most people, myself included just accepted the joke at face value, but you are right, it’s reversed.

      • Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de
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        5 hours ago

        I am “complaining” on a high level here. I just happen to think that it doesn’t work as good as it could due to the inversion. No hate towards the op or towards people who enjoy the joke.