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Instructions: There are 72 objects on the table that one can use on me as desired.
Performance: I am the object. During this period I take full responsibility.
Duration: 6 hours (8pm–2am.) Studio Morra, Naples
As Abramović described it later: “What I learned was that … if you leave it up to the audience, they can kill you … I felt really violated: they cut up my clothes, stuck rose thorns in my stomach, one person aimed the gun at my head, and another took it away. It created an aggressive atmosphere. After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation.”
I swear so many people are actual psychopaths and just good at hiding it.
“After exactly 6 hours, as planned, I stood up and started walking toward the audience. Everyone ran away, to escape an actual confrontation.”
Sounds like the Internet in a nutshell
What would you even do? If I saw this as an advertised event, I wouldn’t go. Neither participating or spectating sounds very interesting. Only psychopaths are going to show up.
This sums it up for me. An invitation can be open to everyone, but the activity they’re being invited to will determine what sort of people show up. When I read, “Come and do whatever you like to an unresisting human who will sit still for six hours,” I immediately turn away–not just because I’m not interested in “doing whatever I like” to a person, but because I don’t want to be in a room with the crowd of people that I imagine would want to do whatever they like to a person.
The authorities should recreate this act to use as a honeypot to identify all the psychos in society.
You can start for free by testing all the middle-managers.
The British have something similar at Buckingham palace. Theirs these guards that just stand around being motionless as possible which attracts people who want to do funny shit to them. They attempt funny shit and get arrested
We already have systems in place to funnel ask the sociopaths into positions where they can be monitored by everyone. It’s called capitalism and politics.
And do what? Being a psycho isn’t illegal in itself.
Assault is, and much of what was done to her would qualify.
Is it still assault if it’s consensual?
Most likely. For example you can’t consent to allowing someone to kill you - see the case where a man agreed to be killed and eaten by someone else.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3286721.stm
The man who killed him was ultimately convicted.
We’re talking about the things that happened in that performance though, not killing someone.
What the fuck. Like I’d throw some paint at her or draw something funny on her but my god.
Wait was the gun fake or real
It was real and loaded. The actor was commited to any outcome including being murdered on stage.
The audience first tested the waters and gradually escalated to more extreme forms of violence. When the violence started the audience factionalized into those who were committed to stopping her from being shot, arguing and shaming aggressors or physically stepping in.
While I don’t know if I can condone the piece ethically it certainly says more about human nature than most art pieces.
I hope someone made a list of everyone who hurt that poor woman.
Weirdly I don’t know if I could class her as a “poor woman” ? She was the one who set up all the objects on the table which included ones that were potentially lethal and she specified the parameters of the piece and very specifically could have stopped the performance at any time by moving of her own volition and speaking. She went into it accepting her own murder as a potential outcome and was committed to carrying on regardless of what happened. It being an art peice would not have protected a participant from a murder charge while assult charges have to be made by the victim of the assault… So there was at least that.
While she may not have been able to account for the long term psychological effects and may have had some initial optimism that people would not choose the darker options made available… I think terming her a “poor woman” might actually be dismissive of the actual volition and personal grit she had in the construction and performance of the piece? While it may have been ballsy to the point bordering madness dangerous stunt performances where athletes risk death for their audiences are a thing and those performers go in with the same expectation of potential fatality.
Nah, blaming her is weaksauce. It’s not about the art show. It’s about the fact that people were hurting an innocent woman – and she is innocent regardless of her choices – and doing shit they’re not supposed to be doing regardless of what she says.
The people who made the choice to hurt her should have been recorded and exposed so we know who to trust and who we can’t.
The art show exposed a truth that humanity has to learn to accept if it’s to protect itself from evil.
Not saying that I am blaming her. The people who hurt her were definitely not good people… Just saying that I feel weird about her being called “poor woman” - like it minimizes the guts of what she did.
Well, I don’t mean it in that way at all, if that helps.
A lot of people aren’t even good at hiding it, their traits are just seen as virtues in our modern capitalist society
From Wiki article: “When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the audience left, unable to face her as a person”
It worked, they really saw her as an object
Wow she stood still while someone slashed her throat to drink her blood. That’s commitment.
The stuff they did boggles my mind such as cutting her with thorns, sexual assault. I don’t understand do they think because it’s “art” it isn’t a fucked up thing to do to a person?
Bro. Artists can be very edgy. Sculptures of naked people, paintings of people fucking, I bet there is some piece made out of rubber vaginas somewhere.
I don’t justify what people did to her, but you bet she knew what it was going to happen, even the thorn part. Otherwise, she would have stopped with the performance right there and there.
Edit: she even made a gun and a bullet available to the public!! I’d rather think it was a blank, but if it wasn’t, then yeah…
Edit 2: Ok, I take it back! People are fucked up indeed: “When the gallery announced the work was over, and Abramović began to move again, she said the audience left, unable to face her as a person.”
I agree she was prepared for it and expected it but still fucked. She didn’t tell them to be cruel…she just said they were allowed to. Reminds me of the Stanford prison experiment where you kind of give people a tacit permission to be evil…so they do and then we are confronted with the aftermath. I just can’t imagine I could cause someone’s skin to bleed purposefully and not feel awful…
Not the same but related…this guy was shot as an art piece
I wonder if it’s supposed to be part of the “art” - to show how depraved humans can be given a chance to do it scot-free.
Pretty sure that is literally the point of this.
Is she what that one episode of House MD based on? There was a patient that essentially did the same art stunt that ended when a participant poured gas on her and started to light a match.
“Do with me what you want” They proceed to do with her what they want
Surprised pikachu face<
but it’s le deep
Clearly staged because no-one drew a spunking cock on her forehead.
This is really disturbing. People in general are awful, that’s my take away.
Sure they are, but the layer beyond that is that they wanted to test the boundaries. She told them anything goes, which means on some level she wanted the freaky shit, and participants didn’t want to disappoint.
Absolutely. The number of people in the comments who have missed the whole point of this piece is staggering.
It’s performative endurance art. Marina was very much hoping and intending to make a statement on the human condition and the flexible limits of our morality. The audience played their part perfectly.
I know that some of you are outraged at the whole thing, but remember that art can’t hurt you, the viewer. Art is supposed to make you feel things. And subsequently, you should have sufficient emotional intelligence to analyse and challenge those emotions and the ethical and moral preconceptions they stem from.
I’m glad I don’t get it on that level. Hopefully I never will.
I don’t think you have to worry about that ☺️
Is this what Shia LeBouf was copying?
And now that you know part of the story, please don’t stop checking out this unknown gem:
https://youtu.be/GXyq2xUmsVQWe deserve more Cate Blanchett in comedy roles
All the Documentary Now! episodes are great.
I feel like I dont understand it and the humor is out of my league.
Fantastic show. Crazy that they got Helen Mirren to be host.
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Nice thank you. I watched it over dinner 🌭
I prefer this performance that she also did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEcqoqvlxPY
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Holy shit that’s some heavy emotions! (Great song too)
sick album cover
That’s honestly mortifying.
Didn’t Yoko Ono do something similar?
She sat on a stage and let audience members cut off pieces of her clothing with scissors.
Not her tongue , unfortunately
I never saw the issue with Yoko Ono. I think she’s pretty funny.
Agreed. She thought The Ruttles was hilarious and forced Lennon to watch it, even though the mockumentary is not kind towards her.
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Is this the new schizophrenic neckbeard copypasta?
Lmfaooo shadduup theae are my gebujne thoughts lmao
Okay readinf this back idk what I meant here Im just gonna oretend I didnt write this
No need to share them with anyone but a professional.
Oooooooookay : /
I fucking hate having eyes sometimes
Y u bully me roflmao
Not normal thoughts, bud. Not trying to judge you but maybe speak to a therepist?
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@Franzia @CaptFeather these are things you say to your therapist, so you can talk these thoughts out and sort out what’s positive, and what’s negative, and why you feel this way. And learning to identify the things you might say that make people around you uncomfortable or worse
Because you’ve seen here you’re making people uncomfortable at best
Trust me. I rarely say the things that go through my head. Not like this, I couldn’t witness it. There are just things one shouldn’t say out loud
You’re ELI5 but I already said I had success in therapy.
identify the things you might say that make people around you uncomfortable
therapy didnt teach me social skills or masking. As far as I have been told, masking is worse for my mental health.
There are just things one shouldn’t say out loud
I literally said I would like take care of this artist rather than harm her. And then I said I have to be protective because people frequently trust me. Listen I know I sound a bit crazy but see past the aesthetics at the real arguments I am making.
@Franzia okay, let’s ELI5. one of the things you should get ot of therapy is social skills. Specifically filters. I never said masking. Masking is not acknowledging how you feel, it’s fake till you make it, as they say. Filters is not saying every thing that goes thru your head out loud. Not filtering is nearly as bad.
Here, you want to be a participant. Watch the goings on and swoop in as a white knight except dress her scantily and take photos. There’s little differencetheres little difference
Dog she is naked and bleeding with a gun in her hand pointed at her head
Does the term Attention whore describes this “art”?
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Performance art is all about look at me doing whacky things.
Essentially true but thoroughly reductive. Like saying “live music is all about saying look at me play all these notes”
Well yea, but you have to play the right notes in the right way. This is more like bringing an philharmonic orchestra to stage and not playing a single note. Actually, that would be much more creative than this.
Given your engagement, I’d say you couldn’t be more wrong.
Point me to some performance art where people are not ending up naked, cut, or doing some other edgy things in public.
This woman literally did not do anything during her performance art. The audience did. That’s the entire point.
You can also be held accountable if doing nothing. You actually DID nothing.
You’re missing the point entirely. It’s supposed to make you feel emotional, and to give you the opportunity to challenge those feelings and understand where those emotions are rooted.
Art is all about challenging your preconceptions, and yet you can’t seem to get over your preconception that art itself is worthless lmao
Art is not everything labeled art. Btw word art comes from latin ars, which means craft or skil.
Talk about irrelevant, good grief.
