Amazon CEO Andy Jassy warns remote workers: ‘It’s probably not going to work out for you’::Amazon CEO Andy Jassy told employees who defy his edict to return to the office three days a week that “it’s probably not going to work out for you.”

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    Jassy told his employees that he spoke to scores of other CEOs and that “virtually all of them” preferred having their employees back in the office.

    CEOs try not to think they’re the center of the world, the challenge.

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      “Should workers be subjected to pointless and dehumanizing drudgery that serves no practical purpose? Find out what this panel of five overpaid CEOs think, after the break.”

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      In other unbiased polling, the wolf spoke to all the other wolves in the pack and they all prefer that the sheep be eaten.

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        In similar fashion, an unprecedented unanimous vote was casted by all the worm hunting birds: worms should not live underground.

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        Don’t want to seem like I’m shitting on unions, but in many cases the established unions themselves are a barrier to real change, as they themselves have been corrupted and/or hamstrung by anti union laws rendering them extremely weak. Ive been in 2 now and was completely surprised by how they actually work these days.

        It’s sad

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      I spoke with virtually all of the workers, and none of them want to pay rent. Yet here we are.

      CEOs can get bent through a videocall

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      Nah, we’re still high on our own farts to realise they can turn foul rather quickly.

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      It’s not looking good for programers in particular.

      The reason why the can get paid as much as they want is 100% based on you being able to jump ship form company to company without having to wait for a company to find common ground between you and them through a union.

      Sure, they’ll still be hugely compensated but tech companies will keep abusing interns, freelancers. Obviously outsourcing will explode even more than it already has in the last 10 years.

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        True, but that’s why you do a trade union instead of a company union. And programmers have a lot to gain. These companies, shareholders, and CEOs rake in billions that could be going to employees.

        A programmer will make a feature that saves the company a million dollars and they’ll get paid $100,000 to build it.

        Now is the best time for programmers to unionize. Do it when you already have leverage to make sure the good times stay good. Otherwise, we’ll eventually be as replaceable as drafters are now.

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        I don’t buy it. This isn’t the only mechanism, probably not even the most important one, for why salaries are where they are. Shortage of and especially of highly competent programmers is. In fact this actually underpins why jumping ship is even as easy as it is. Uninionization will provide additional leverage, while not diminishing the shortage pressure. Part of the point is that this leverage can substitute the leverage we have due to the current shortage, if and when it diminishes.

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      Too many libertarians in tech. Will never happen.

      Source. In tech. Not libertarian.

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    It’s the commercial real estate mortgage backed securities market. If everyone doesn’t pay office rent the collateralized debt of those places goes kaput, the security implodes like 2008 and the banking industry goes under.

    These CEOs are all invested. They don’t care about productivity, it’s all about saving their investments.

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          It’s not. I really hate it when Marx fans and Rand fans find something in common, and one of such rare things is thinking that preventing big trees from falling is somehow connected to normal economics.

          Naturally it’s the other way around, the more painful it is to make such mistakes, the more optimized the market is.

          Other than that, gambling on the assumption that regulators are going to save you is the same as cheating, stealing etc.

          It’s like the suicide joke again - “more suicide jumpers means fewer suicide jumpers”. Market economy is about evolution. If you impede evolution (say, with preventing somebody from failing or with copyright and patent laws), then it loses its main advantage over anything else.

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      and the banking industry goes under.

      Which translates to the banking industry learning some lessons and becoming more efficient. Yes, please.

      Other than that, some drop in realty prices is welcome.

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        The only thing they’ll learn is the date their next rubberstamped bailout check from the government is going to come.

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        Will not happen. Too big to fail, ydda yadda.

        Despite the banks not having implement the promised mechanisms to avoid another crash.

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      This. I’ve been saying and seeing it since Covid. Offices are half empty. Main street footfall is shrinking. These zones are high premiun rents, owned by REITs and other comercial founds. If they are not occupied and ppl is not consuming on the next door shops, assets value is gone down. More colateral is going to be asked from their lenders. Also, municipalities don’t want to lose population as this can result on less budget from government… Of course they are going to put pressure on their CEO buddies to have spenders back to office.

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        Considering that the US has a almost nonexistent social system, the state is actively accelerating the gap between poor and rich by supporting onesidedly.

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    Amazon employees who refused to relocate near main offices of their teams were told they either have to find a new job internally or leave the company through a “voluntary resignation.”

    How dumb does he think people are? This just makes me angry because they’re probably going to get away with it too.

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      Why would you quit? Continue working from home while lining up a new job. Or, if they don’t specify how long you have to be in on those 3 days, just clock in and go back home an hour later. Game the system, make it work for you. They do.

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        They don’t “game” the system, the make it, and it will always work on their favor.

        !Only attempt to game the system if you are a man, preferably white, masc appearing, not that poor, not visually disabled. Other rules may apply, please read your manual. Complaints to deities are accepted but always ignored. If you think you qualify for game the system consult your favorite TikTok cashcow influencer and quote Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos/Bill Gates/Steve Jobs for credibility and social leverage. We are no responsible for predictable consequences if you take game the system while not meeting the aforementioned criteria.!<

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          Nah, if you’re visibly disabled you’ve got a leg up. Just claim wrongful termination and go for a jury trial.

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        If you’re 10+ hours away clocking in for 2 minutes isn’t possible.

        If you’re ever in this situation, look up constructive dismissal. Basically its better to stay home and be “fired” and refuse the voluntarily resignation. That being said, the USA has a lot less protections for employees then Canada or Europe but it’s good to be informed anyway.

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      lmao, “voluntary resignation” is hilarious. If you plan to purge everyone who won’t relocate, you’re gonna have to do a layoff. This isn’t one of those layoffs that will impress investors, because it won’t represent efficiency or cost savings, but instead corporate dysfunction.

      If your workers aren’t voluntarily relocating to return to the office, they’re certainly not going to voluntarily forfeit their unemployment benefits by quitting. They’ll just stop working and wait for the pink slip.

      Unless they plan to attach a severance more valuable that unemployment benefits to the resignation, they’re fucking dreaming. Even so, that would be a hilarious misstep to offer Amazon employees a voluntary paid exit, because it would undoubtedly result in an unsustainable wave of resignations across the org.

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    More likely that it doesn’t work out for Jassy. Certain Amazon units are underperforming under his leadership, and I wouldn’t be shocked if his time at Amazon didn’t last that much longer.

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    I was looking at some of the Amazon postings near me, but they’re all down in Irvine.

    Pretty much the entire talents pool of LA is off limits to Amazon now.

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    Given how many millions of people must have used Amazon to order stuff to work from home over the past 3+ years, this is a really weird position to hold. You’d think this guy would be all about everyone kitting out their home office spaces.

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    This is readily admitting he’s about to do what’s called Constructive Dismissal!

    Which means he will owe all remote workers their severance pay.

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    I kinda hate this shit tbh, what they are doing is paying us less and forcing us to move to more and more high cost areas to work “in the office”. I kinda honestly think back to the office is a way to lay off a ton of people with unemployment.

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      Dude is an asshole but what does the quote have to do with his pale skin?

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        That he doesn’t leave home and work from home? So the sun doesn’t gets to him…Idk…